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have not agreed to all things that conflict, I am at a loss to interpret their singular platform. But the general sweeping resolution mentioned by the Senator from Maine merely amounts to an acceptance of all appropriations which we may make. Very few Republican conventions (I mean no offense) will decline to assimilate that which they can get. [Laughter.]
Mr. ALLEN. Did that convention make any specific reference to Santa Monica?
Mr. WHITE. No; but in the county of Los Angeles, where there are six assembly districts, two only of such districts acted upon the subject in recent Republican conventions and these passed resolutions in favor of San Pedro. So you have it. The immediate locality favors San Pedro. The Republican State convention indorsed the railroad as far as nominees were concerned, advocated all appropriations, McKinley, and free coinage, and opposed Democracy, monopoly, and the funding bill.
I am not responsible, I am glad to say, for the proceedings of the late Republican convention held in California. The Republican delegation being absent from that State, the convention evidently escaped from proper or consistent management. As far as the sentiment of the people of Los Angeles is concerned, I know whereof I speak when I say that their judgment is overwhelmingly for San Pedro. There are many, as I have admitted, who prefer to take Santa Monica rather than lose the appropriation; but, be it said to the credit of Los Angeles County, and let it be said to the credit of the workingmen of that prosperous section, and to the honor of the Chamber of Commerce and the Board of Trade, that they have all elected to sacrifice a mere appropriation rather than to lose independence. The leaders and officials of almost all the labor organizations of Los Angeles have manfully and grandly supported the right in this struggle. They have emphatically declined to submit to blandishments and have approved of the course of my colleague and myself.
Í feel that we should reach a vote upon this proposition at once, and I concur that the bill should go to conference immediately. I submit the issue to your candid judgment. Your opinion can not be coerced or controlled. You know this case now. Its various phases have been fully examined. I have sought to impress the facts upon you, content to rest my claims upon justice and truth.
The struggle which I have made here may seem stubborn to some, but it is maintained in the consciousness and belief that I am acting for the public interest. No demagogical appeal — notwithstanding intimations to the contrary has influenced or ever will influence me. I have been as able as the Senator from Maine to maintain myself in my conservative methods without condescending to belittlement. I experience natural pride in my presence here, but I would willingly sacrifice that honor rather than yield my maturely formed judgment to any senseless clamor, to threats or flattery, to condemnation or applause, and I might say, Mr. President, that I would rather be a lawyer whose word was as good as the rich man's bond, and whose opinion upon an intricate question of judicial science was valued by the master minds of my profession, than to hold in my hand all the honors that ever were won by appeals to the passions or prejudices of men. [Applause in the galleries. ]
Mr. FRYE. Mr. President, the Senator from California has painted a picture of me which I do not believe any Senator who has been associated with me for quite a number of years will recognize. I think I do yield very frequently, and to a certain extent I am going to yield now, notwithstanding the charge which has been made against me — the navigator of the committee. I objected very seriously to the amendment offered by the Senator from California. It contained an Army engineer as one of the commission. I am not saying anything against the Army engineers, but in a question of this kind, in which there has been so much discussion and friction, to put on that commission an Army engineer, when his chief is the head of the Engineer Department, and was the head of one of the boards which made report to Congress and has been under consideration, I do say that it is packing, in all human probability, the foreman of that jury, for he would be the foreman, and I should not be content with nor would I risk a commission of that kind. It was on that account that I said there might be one chance in ten of a commission so constituted reporting in favor of San Pedro.
The Senator has offered an amendment to strike out the item which the committee had inserted in the bill, and to insert his amend
It is my right, before that question is taken, to perfect, so far as I may, the amendment which the committee itself reported, and I am going to propose a commission which, under the statement of the Senator made within the last fifteen minutes, I fail to see how even "he can refuse to accept.
In order that the Senate may understand the amendment I now propose, I will read the first two lines of the amendment reported by the committee, which read in this way:
For a deep-water harbor at Port Los Angeles, in Santa Monica Bay, California.
After the word “ California," in line 14 of that amendment of the committee, I move to insert these words:
Or at San Pedro, in said State, the location of said harbor to be determined by an officer of the Navy, to be detailed by the Secretary of the Navy, an officer of the Coast and Geodetic Survey, to be detailed by the Superintendent of said Survey, and three experienced civil engineers, skilled in riparian work, to be appointed by the President, who shall constitute a board, the decision of a majority of which shall be final as to the location of said harbor. It shall be the duty of said board to make plans, specifications, and estimates for said improvement. Whenever said board shall have settled the location and made report to the Secretary of War of the same, with said plans, specifications, and estimates, then the Secretary of War may make contracts for the completion of the improvement of the harbor so selected by said board, according to the project reported by them, at a cost not exceeding in the aggregate $2,900,000, and $20,000 are hereby appropriated, so much thereof as may be necessary to be used for the expenses of the board and payment of the civil engineers for their services, the amount to be determined by the Secretary of War.
Mr. VEST. I will suggest to the chairman of the committee that he insert the words “ who shall personally examine the localities named.”
Mr. FRYE. I will say “who shall constitute a board and personally examine."
Mr. WHITE. I presume the Senator from Missouri has in view what he thinks is the necessity of re-sounding this harbor.
Mr. VEST. Yes. I do not want this work done by proxy, as has been done in other cases.
Mr. WHITE. I will suggest that the Coast and Geodetic Survey charts, upon which navigation is conducted on that coast, are presumably accurate. However, I only make that statement because I do not think it is just to criticise General Craighill for not making soundings, which had been officially done by the Coast and Geodetic Survey. Still, I am not objecting to the re-soundings.
Mr. TELLER. I suggest to the chairman of the committee that $20,000 is not an adequate sum for that kind of work.
Mr. FRYE. The Senator from Iowa (Mr. ALLISON] was just making that same suggestion to me.
Mr. TELLER. I want to say that if the President of the United States selects three engineers such as he ought to select, each one of them should have at least $10,000 for that work.
Mr. FRYE. Suppose we make the amount $40,000 ?
Mr. TELLER. I should say it ought to be at least $50,000 say “to be used in the discretion of the President, not exceeding $50,000."
Mr. FRYE. Very well.
Mr. PERKINS. I would also suggest to the chairman of the Committee on Commerce that there should be limit of time within which the matter shall be determined. It does not seem to me that it should be like Tennyson's brook, to run on forever. I think there
. should be a limit of time.
Mr. FRYE. No; I do not think there should be. I think the board should have all the time they need to settle this question. There is one thing above everything else I wish, and that is a settlement of this vexed question.
Mr. BERRY. I wish to remark to the Senator from Maine that it seems to me that it would be fairer and better to take two of the members of the board from civil life and two from the Coast and Geodetic Survey, or one from the Coast and Geodetic Survey and one from the Navy. It occurs to me that it would be better to have more public officials on the commission who are responsible to the Government. I simply make the suggestion as giving my views about it.
Mr. FRYE. I am obliged to the Senator ; but I have all day been running this over in my mind, and as a conclusion, a fair conclusion of this contest, I finally have settled down upon this proposition. As a matter of course, I have yielded a good deal in doing so. The Senator from California is practically having his own way, when he says he simply asks an entirely impartial board.
Mr. BERRY. Is the proposition satisfactory to the Senator from California ?
Mr. WHITE. I have stated that I would accept any impartial board, and I usually stick to what I say, or try to do so, and I believe the President of the United States — I not only believe, but I know will do his duty in this regard. If I had my way about it I would rather have one Army engineer, but I see no reason to think that this will not be an absolutely impartial board. I think all the other boards have been impartial; but this is an endeavor to reach a conclusion satisfactory to the Senate, and I will adhere to what I stated. I have consulted with those who agree with me about this matter, with as many as I could talk to about it, and it seems to be the general impression that I should accept the amendment. While I have my preferences, as stated, I do not wish to interpose any objection to the accomplishment of a plan which is a concession by the Senator from Maine and also a concession by the Senator from California. I think we can afford to stand upon it.
Mr. FRYE. I offer the amendment, then, Mr. President.
Mr. PASCO. Mr. President, as one of the minority of the committee who objected to the majority report, I am entirely in favor of this amendment, and I am very glad that the Senator from Maine [Mr. Frye), the chairman of the committee, has conceded so much. There never was a time during the sessions of the committee when the minority of the committee would not have joined with him in obtaining what we all regarded as a fair and impartial board; and I think the amendment he now offers to us proposes just such a scheme as that. For one I hope that it will be adopted and that this plan of settlement will be agreed upon by the Senate.