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APPROPRIATION BILL FOR 1941

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

SEVENTY-SIXTH CONGRESS

THIRD SESSION

ON THE

INTERIOR DEPARTMENT
APPROPRIATION BILL FOR 1941

Printed for the use of the Committee on Appropriations

PART I
INTERIOR DEPARTMENT (EXCEPT BUREAU

OF INDIAN AFFAIRS)

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(L.ARENCE ANNOX, Miknouri

JOHN TABER, New York (LII TONA. WOODRUM, Virginia

R B IGLESIVORTUL Mischietto OLIS LIDLOW, Indiana

WILLIAM P. LAMBERINOX, Kansas MALCOLM TARVER, Georgia

1 LANE TOWERS, New Jersey JED JOHXROX, Ollabora

WILLIAM DITTER, l'ennsylvania J. BIELI SXIDER. Innsylsapla

ALBERT E, CARTER, (allfornia JAMES MANDREWS. Illinois

ILORERT F. RlII. Pennsylvania EMMET ONEAL. Kentuiks

(HARLES P'LIMLEY, Vermont GEORGE WJO!IXSOX, Wont l'irginia EVERETT N, DIRKSEN, Illinois JAMES ( 8 RICAV. Neinen

ALBERT J. ENGEL Michigan JAMEN I FITZATRICK. Sex Tork KARI. STEFAN Vebrakka 1.OUIS ( KABAIT. Vichigan

FRAXIS II. CARE, South Dakota JOACHIM O FERNAND: Laul-lann DI DLEY A WHITE. Obio MILLARD F CALDWELI. Florida

('LAREN'E J. MOLEOD, Michienn DAVID D TERRY, Arkansas

FRAVK B KEEFE. Wincon in
JOUX 1 HOON. Kansas
JOE STARNES, Alabama
RONS. TOLLINS, Mississippi
(ILARLES II LEAVY, Washington
JOSEPH E CASEY, Massachusetts
JOIX II. KERR, North ('arolina
GEORGE 11 MAION. TU
ILARRY K SHEI'PARD). Onlifornia
BI TIER BILIRE, South Carolina

MARUUS (SMID, ('leid

SI HOMMITITE ON INTERIOR D.PARTMENT

EDWARD T TAYLOR, Color ndo, (hairman

JED JOHNNOX Lihama
JAMING NA RIGUAM para
JAMES MP1IZI'ATRICK. New York
(II ARLES 11 LEAVI Washington
HARRY K SILIPARD falifornia

ROBERT FRICH, Pennsylvania
ALBERT E CARTER, ('allfornia
DE LEY A. WHITE, Ohio

DUITED , OF AMERICA

MAR 13

INTERIOR DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATION BILL, 1941

HEARINGS CONDUCTED BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, MESSRS. EDWARD

7. TAYLOR (CHAIRMAN); JED JOHNSON, OKLAHOMA; JAMES G. SCRUGHAM, JAMES M. FITZPATRICK, CHARLES H. LEAVY, HARRY R. SHEPPARD, ROBERT F. RICH, ALBERT E. CARTER, AND DUDLEY A WHITE, OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, IN CHARGE OF THE IXTERIOR DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATION BILL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1941. ON THE FOLLOWING DAYS, NAMELY:

MONDAY, JANUARY 29, 1940.

(
UDIIT OF HEARINGS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR

Mr. JOHNSON of Oklahoma. Members of the committee will regret

much that Chairman Taylor is unable to be present at this time. - hop, however, that he will be able to be with us very soon. I scting chairman of the subcommittee I am continuing the practice

(Chairman Taylor in dividing the work among the several subcomfor inembers, and also of continuing the custom of having each unter of the subeommittee preside while the Bureau assigned to u is being heard. Incidentally, we are delighted to welcome Mr. eppard of California as a new member of this subcommittee on 1. propriations. I am sure he will enjoy his service. He has been vigtied to handle the estimates of appropriations for the Bureau

• Mines. We will now take up the consideration of the Interior Dyartment appropriation bill.

THI RSDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 1940. STATEMENT OF HON. HAROLD L. ICKES, SECRETARY OF THE

INTERIOR, ACCOMPANIED BY EBERT K. BURLEW, FIRST ASSIST. ANT SECRETARY

Vr. SCRIGHAM. We are pleased to have you with us this morning, Mr Sretary.

Vretary ICKEN. Thank you. Mr. SRECHAN. As you know we have deferred requesting you to er before us on account of the illness of our Chairman, Mr. Taylor. H- has sent word that he would not be here today and has requested . to proppel.

tetary ICKEN. I am very sorry to know he cannot be present.

GENERAL STATEMENT

Jir. Sert GHAM. We will be glad to hear any statement you may are to make. Sretary ICKER. If I may I will just read a brief formal statement.

COMPARISON OF ESTIMATES FOR 1940 WITH APPROPRIATIONS MADE

FOR 1939

Last year when I appeared before this committee the Budget estimates for the Interior Department for 1940 carried increases aggregating approximately $21,000,000. This year the estimates as carried in the 1941 Budget show decreases, as compared with the 1910 appropriations, aggregating almost $38,000,000. The decreases for 1941 include $29.805,166.60, in various items contained in the committee print which you have before you and the balance is made up largely of two relief items amounting to $5,350,000 for which appropriations are not being considered at this time. The major cuts made by the Bureau of the Budget are reflected in construirtion items of the Bonneville project, the Bureau of Reclamation, the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and the National Park Service. Other reductions are also reflected in items involved in the reorganization transfers and in several appropriation items of the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

During the last year several changes were effected in the Department pursuant to the Reorganization Act of 1939. The Office of Education was transferred to the Federal Security Agency. The l'nited States Housing Authority and the Branch of Buildings Management of the National Park Service were transferred to the Fedi. eral Works Agency. In return we received the Bureau of Biological Survey from the Department of Agriculture, the Bureau of Fisheries from the Department of ('ommerce, the Bureau of Insular Affairs from the War Department, and the Mount Rushmore National Memorial ('ommission which was carried as an independent agency during the fiscal year 1939. We have also established in the Secretary office a division designated as the Bituminous ('oal Division to carry out the functions of the National Bituminous (Coal Commission which was abolished under Reorganization Plan No. 2. Another division designated as the ('onsumers' ('ounsel Division has also been potablished in the Office of the Solicitor to assume the duties of the (onsumers' Counsel of the National Bituminous ('oul (ommission, which office was also abolished under the sume reorganization plann. From an administrative standpoint these changes have greatly improved the organization of the Department and, as will be noted in the Budpet estimates, economies in operating expenses, notably in the :(ministration of the National Bituminous (oal Art, are being effectedi.

There are several items which I would like to mention fpecially at this time.

DIVINOX OF PERNOXXEL SUPERVISION AND MANAGEMENT

In the estimate for silaries of my immediate office there is an increase of $13,340 for the Division of Personnel Supervision and Management. I wish to stress the fact that this item in urgently needed irrespective of the policy which (ongreus may adope con cerning personnel procedures contemplated in the Executive order of June 24, 193". With the growth of the Department's activities since 19:33, involving an increase of over 135 percent in the pumber of employee, from 19.615 in that year to over 47.000 at the present

time, there has developed the need for an enlarged staff and for improved methods for handling personnel matters.

Early in 1938 I established the position of director of personnel with a view of realigning the functions of our personnel work. Several months thereafter, on February 1, 1939, the Division of Personnel Supervision and Management was established to further the plan and at the same time conform with the procedures proposed in the President's order. Through savings in lapses and at the temporary sacrifice of positions needed in other units we have carried for approximately one year, a nucleus of the increased staff needed in the Division. The organization is of the staff type, maintaining a central control of personnel policies and procedures and coordinating them among the bureaus. The results obtained during this short period have been most satisfactory. To revert to our former system, which will be necessary if the increase allowed by the Bureau of the Budget is not approved, will mean that two administrative employees, the Director of the Division and an Assistant Director, without sufficient help to handle even the routine details, will be called upon to assume responsibilities of over-all personnel management for over 47,000 employees distributed throughout the several States, Territories, and island possessions.

OFFICE OF THE SOLICITOR · When I appeared before the committee last year, I emphasized my uneasiness over the situation caused by the lack of sufficient personnel to perform the legal work of the Department. A recent critical examination of the Office of the Solicitor discloses that although my uneasiness was fully justified at that time the present situation is one to be viewed with alarm, because the legal work has continued to accumulate despite the large amount of overtime worked by the staff, and it is evident that unless the Solicitor's staff is enlarged the work of the Department will be slowed down seriously.

Last year a request was made for an increased appropriation of $26,120 to provide personnel for a new legislative unit. Only $9,180 was appropriated for this purpose, a sum entirely inadequate to provide sufficient personnel for the important work on legislation.

The overload of work on the personnel of the Solicitor's Office has been increased greatly as a result of the transfer to the Department on July 1 of functions administered previously in other departments of the Government. This additional responsibility has been placed on the office of the Solicitor without adequate provisions for increased personnel. This is true particularly concerning the activities of the Division of Territories which now include the functions performed previously by the Bureau of Insular Affairs.

This year's estimate is $314,340. It includes an increase of $23,440 over the appropriation available for the fiscal year 1940. The increase is to provide legal service essential to the effective work of two activities of the Department, and to relieve the Solicitor in some measure of the burden of the many business and personnel details arising in connection with the administration of his office. Previous appropriations have made no provision for legal services to the Division of Territories, and since July 1 the legal work of

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