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CONTENTS

Text of:

8. 3612----Public Law 93-6

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2. 149 156 158 160

2450_----------------------------------------------

S. 3522 -
Departmental report by the Railroad Retirement Board..-

CHRONOLOGICAL LIST OF WITNESSES

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 1974
Cowen, James L., Chairman, Railroad Retirement Board, accompanied by

Neil P. Speirs, labor member, Railroad Retirement Board; Dale Zimmerman, assistant general counsel ; Joseph J. Mele, assistant to the management member; and Abraham Benjamin, director of research.-------Spiers, Neil P., member, Railroad Retirement Board, representing railroad labor and management.--------------------

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TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1974
Dennis, C. L., international president, Brotherhood of Railway and Air-

line Clerks, in behalf of the Congress of Railway Unions and Railway
Labor Executives Association, accompanied by Ned Davis, counsel,
Miami, Fla.; Jim Kennedy, general legislative counsel, Washington,

D.C
Tempsey, William H., chairman, National Railway Labor Conference, ac-

companied by Stephen Ailes, president, Association of American Rail-
roads; and H. E. Greer, vice chairman, and W. L. Burner, Jr., director

of research, National Railway Labor Conference-----
ONeill, Paul H., Associate Director for Human and Community Affairs,

Othce of Management and Budget ----
De Podwin, Horace J., dean, Graduate School of Business, Rutgers Univer-

dity, accompanied by James Laurie, an independent consultant, formerly
a railroad consultant on matters of railroad legislation policy...
Hacking, James M., legislative representative of the Retired Teachers As-

sociation and American Association of Retired persons..

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STATEMENTS
Biden, Hon. Joseph R., Jr., a U.S. Senator from the State of Delaware -----
Cowen, James L., chairman, Railroad Retirement Board, accompanied by

Veil P. Spiers, labor member, Railroad Retirement Board ; Dale Zimmer-
man, assistant general counsel; Joseph J. Mele, assistant to the manage-
ment member; and Abraham Benjamin, director of research.---

Prepared statement with appendix.------

Prepared statement on S. 2450 and S. 3522 --------
De Podwin, Horace J., dean, Graduate School of Business, Rutgers Univer-

wity, accompanied by James Laurie, an independent consultant, formerly
a railroad consultant on matters of railroad legislation policy-----

Prepared statement.--------
Dempsey, William H., chairman, National Railway Labor Conference, ac-

companied by Stephen Ailes, president, Association of American Rail-
roads; and H. E. Greer, vice chairman, and W. L. Burner, Jr., director
of research, National Railway Labor Conference----

Prepared statement...

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