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RESTRUCTURING OF THE RAILROAD RETIREMENT

SYSTEM, 1974

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Cowen, James L., Chairman, Railroad Retirement Board, accompanied by
Neil P. Speirs, labor member, Railroad Retirement Board; Dale Zim-
merman, assistant general counsel; Joseph J. Mele, assistant to the man-
agement member; and Abraham Benjamin, director of research_------
Spiers, Neil P., member, Railroad Retirement Board, representing railroad
labor and management..

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1974

Dennis, C. L., international president, Brotherhood of Railway and Air-
line Clerks, in behalf of the Congress of Railway Unions and Railway
Labor Executives Association, accompanied by Ned Davis, counsel,
Miami, Fla.; Jim Kennedy, general legislative counsel, Washington,
D.C

Dempsey, William H., chairman, National Railway Labor Conference, ac-
companied by Stephen Ailes, president, Association of American Rail-
roads; and H. E. Greer, vice chairman, and W. L. Burner, Jr., director
of research, National Railway Labor Conference...--
O'Neill, Paul H., Associate Director for Human and Community Affairs,
Office of Management and Budget-----

DePodwin, Horace J., dean, Graduate School of Business, Rutgers Univer-
sity, accompanied by James Laurie, an independent consultant, formerly
a railroad consultant on matters of railroad legislation policy---
Hacking. James M., legislative representative of the Retired Teachers As-
sociation and American Association of Retired persons---

STATEMENTS

Biden, Hon. Joseph R., Jr., a U.S. Senator from the State of Delaware__
Cowen, James L., chairman, Railroad Retirement Board, accompanied by
Neil P. Spiers, labor member, Railroad Retirement Board; Dale Zimmer-
man, assistant general counsel; Joseph J. Mele, assistant to the manage-
ment member; and Abraham Benjamin, director of research_----
Prepared statement with appendix..........

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Prepared statement on S. 2450 and S. 3522-

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De Podwin, Horace J., dean, Graduate School of Business, Rutgers Univer-
sity, accompanied by James Laurie, an independent consultant, formerly
a railroad consultant on matters of railroad legislation policy---
Prepared statement-----

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Dempsey. William H., chairman, National Railway Labor Conference, ac-
companied by Stephen Ailes, president, Association of American Rail-
roads; and H. E. Greer, vice chairman, and W. L. Burner, Jr., director
of research, National Railway Labor Conference....

Prepared statement..

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