DAILY NEWS, THURSDAY, APRIL 18, 1907 HAPPIER HOLIDAY FEASTING WITH... SAFEWAY SPECIALS! Oven, Ovy Turkeys Smoked Hams Ready GOV'T GRADE A AND GOV'T INSPECTED 18 to 24 LBS. 4 to 16 LBS. SHANK END READY-TO-EAT-12 to 16 LB. AVER. 41-43 33 43 SERVE WITH TURKEY Cranberry SauCO CAN PLAY 2135 FREE GIFTS & LOW PRICES resolve with each purchase at Saleway. hangs them for the Free Gift of your les. Get full details and see display at the eth Center of your nearby Seloway. Whole or Full Half - 53c CANNED HAMS... READY-TO-EAT... A REAL TREAT -2.49 DANISH DANISH Fish Sticks Shop Early... Shop Happy... Shop Safeway-Values Galore All Over The Store! Mrs. WERBELL. Let us talk about milk. We went into three different shops. Mine was 26 cents a quart. Each paid a different price. Mr. ANFUSO. Mrs. Pryor paid 27? Mrs. PRYOR. Yes. Mr. ANFUSO. In what neighborhood? Mrs. PRYOR. I shopped in upper-in the middle of Manhattan. Mrs. PRYOR. Yes. Mr. ANFUSO. West Side or East Side? Mrs. PRYOR. 150th Street, West Side, and low income. Mr. ANFUSO. I know the neighborhood, independent low income. You paid how much? Mrs. PRYOR. Twenty-seven. Mr. ANFUSO. Mrs. Werbell? Mrs. WERBELL. Twenty-six cents. Mr. ANFUSO. Where-what neighborhood? Mrs. WERBELL. Lower East Side. Mr. ANFUSO. Lower East Side? Mrs. WERBELL. Yes. Mr. JENNINGS. What is the difference in price of milk bought in the supermarket and delivered at home? Mrs. WERBELL. I do not know. Mrs. MILLER. It is 29 cents delivered. Mr. JENNINGS. What would it cost in the neighborhood market? Mrs. MILLER. I do not know. Mr. JENNINGS. Twenty-six or 27. I mean, there is a difference. Mrs. WERBELL. It was 26 in the market. Three cents difference in the market. Mr. JENNINGS. Is that the average margin, 3 cents difference? Mrs. PERSINGER. For home delivery over the supermarket price. Mr. JENNINGS. Let us take an average in the same communitywhat is the average differential in price? Mrs. WERBELL. There isn't. In the same community you have the same price in the stores. Mr. FISHER. There is 2 cents' difference between the store and home delivery price. Generally speaking, you will find an odd penny difference in the stores. Mr. ANFUSO. You have been holding up two beautiful apples. I think I want to say something about them. Mrs. PERSINGER. This is my activity in consumers' education because I feel that the Government can legislate, and still won't know how to do our shopping. Unless we take an interest in what items are luxury items, what items are prevalent and plentiful, and the season of the year, and why it is important not to buy a lot of these things such as pineapple, the honeydew melon, which are not the sort of thing we would feed a family on the lower East Side which really requires a high level of nutrition for little money. As to these apples which I bought, naturally, I wanted the very best-looking apple I could find. The McIntosh which we have here is from the middle Sixties, on the East Side. They are very poor and bruised and spoiled. These are New York State Delicious. I had the pleasure of paying 9 cents apiece for them. This seems fine, but I just wonder how much a farmer got in the season of the year when apples are plentiful, for these apples. Mr. ANFUSO. Mr. Ogren, how about that? Mr. OGREN. What variety? Mrs. PERSINGER. These are New York State Delicious. Mr. ANFUSO. Incidentally, this is an open house here. If anybody else has answers, please raise your hand. Mr. KESSNER. Did I understand her to say 15 cents a pound? Mr. KESSNER. On Friday afternoon on my way home I stopped off at the supermarket and I bought 3 pounds of very fine McIntosh for 19 cents-3 pounds for 19 cents. In other words, it depends on where you buy, and how you shop, and what you buy. If I buy 1 apple, on the sidewalk, you pay for it. It is different— 10 cents or 11 cents or anything you can get. Mr. ANFUSO. Where did you buy those apples? Mrs. PERSINGER. I bought these in the east Sixties at a mediumpriced small store. I realize that this is even more than mine. Mr. FISHER. May I say something relative to Delicious? Mrs. PERSINGER. Yes. Mr. FISHER. You will find them this weekend 3 pounds for 35 cents. Did you buy that in a delicatessen? Mrs. PERSINGER. No. Mr. FISHER. It is very unusual for apples at this time of the yearI think I haven't seen apples any cheaper in the last 10 years as we have this year because they have a bumper crop in New York State, had quite a crop up in the New England States and they are really pushing apples. Mr. ANFUSO. We will have a panel on apples later. Mr. FISHER. I want to compare the prices they are being sold for generally throughout the city. Mr. ANFUSO. When did you buy those? Mrs. PERSINGER. Yesterday afternoon. Mr. McINTIRE. Could we ask the New York apple grower what they are bringing to the producer packed? Those are packed up there. Mr. CLARK. The Delicious that she has there, of that quality up until the last 2 or 3 days have been selling f. o. b., the farm packing house for probably around $3.50 or $3.75 a box. Mr. ANFUSO. A box? Mr. CLARK. That box would contain probably 125 apples of that size. Mr. ANFUSO. That would be about 3 cents a piece? Mr. CLARK. That price in the last 3 or 4 days has declined to the point I think yesterday morning they were in the vicinity of $3.25 and $3.50 delivered in New York, which would probably be no more than $2.75 at home. Mr. ANFUSO. Let me ask you this. These apples come from upstate. New York? Mr. CLARK. I understood her to say that they did. I am not sure where they came from. Mr. ANFUSO. It may be 60 or 70 miles away? Mr. CLARK. Yes. Mr. ANFUSO. And in that short period of time it gets to the consumer and there is a variation in price of about 10 cents, is that right? The only thing that has been done is that they have been polished. Mr. CLARK. I do not know about that. Mr. McINTIRE. May I ask, Mr. Clark, what percentage of the good would pack out to that box right there? Mr. CLARK. Of Delicious? Mr. McINTIRE. Yes. Mr. CLARK. That is quite a fancy apple and I would say that under normal circumstances not over 50 percent. Mr. McINTIRE. That would be half? Mr. CLARK. The remainder would be lower grades and smaller sizes. Mr. McINTIRE. Much lower grade by taking those out. Mr. CLARK. That is true enough. Mr. ANFUSO. So that the farmer would not even average up to $3.50? Mr. CLARK. I am not talking about averaging. I am talking about that particular fancy box bought at the farm. The average is brought way down by the lower grades and smaller sizes. Mr. ANFUSO. Thank you very much. Do you wish to say anything else? Mrs. PERSINGER. May I talk about tomatoes? You do not need these to sustain life. We buy hothouse tomatoes. Tomatoes are in tremendous supply here, and it does not seem right to me to buy California tomatoes-if they know that a tomato is at its peak-the crop is at its peak, they should not be buying California tomatoes. Mr. FISHER. We have had the frost that knocked that out. All you have is the main supply from California. Mr. ANFUSO. The main supply is from California? Mr. FISHER. Right at the present time it is from California. Mr. ANFUSO. Thank you very much. Mrs. Knutson would like to know something about eggs. Mrs. WERBELL. I paid 30 cents half a dozen or 60 cents a dozen large size grade A. Mr. PRYOR. I paid 41 cents-82 cents a dozen. Mr. ANFUSO. How much did you pay? Mrs. WERBELL. Sixty cents. Mrs. PRYOR. Eighty-two cents. Mr. ANFUSO. Is it a larger egg or the same size? Mrs. WERBELL. The same size I think. Mr. ANFUSO. If I know these two neighborhoods, Mr. Chairman and members of the committee, I think that Mrs. Pryor comes from, I mean, the income there is lower than the neighborhood Mrs. Werbell comes from. And you paid more? Mrs. PRYOR. This is what brought about the Consumers Protective Committee the high prices. Mr. ANFUSO. You pay more in that low-income neighborhood; you are paying more than they are paying in the middle income. Mrs. KNUTSON. Mr. Ogren, what do they bring to the farmer or do you have average overall figures? Mr. OGREN. We have some prices for nearby eggs that would come into the New York market. Again this is back in mid-September, prices averaged 47.9 cents per dozen, and for the midwest eggs coming into this market, the farmers received 3812 cents. Mrs. KNUTSON. I was going to say that the last time I heard the price for eggs in my district was 38 cents to the farmer. Mr. McINTIRE. These are white. I do not suppose you can buy a brown egg in New York, can you? Mrs. PRYOR. They are supposed to be cheaper. Mr. McINTIRE. The brown egg would be cheaper. Mrs. KNUTSON. Would you favor buying eggs by the pound? Mrs. WERBELL. Yes. We could try it for a short time. Some stores did. Mrs. KNUTSON. If it worked out uniformly, do you think it would be a valuable thing to the consumers? Mrs. WERBELL. I do, to the consumers. Dr. CAMPBELL. In New York State we do have standards and grades. Grade A large is supposed to represent a particular standard, and New York State officials will know that standard. It does not have the same quality except for freshness. That grade is made at the time of handling, and eggs may deteriorate in storage. But you do not have the same kind of problem in quality selection, as you do in some of the other quarters. Mr. ANFUSO. Are there any other questions on the part of the members of the committee? If not, I would like to place in the record the names of these three ladies, Mrs. Samuel Werbell-and may we have your address? Mrs. WERBELL. 7100 Beekman Place, Brooklyn. Mr. ANFUSO. You are associated, Mrs. Werbell, with the Henry Street Settlement? Mrs. WERBELL. Yes; that is correct. Mr. ANFUSO. Then we have Mrs. Walton Pryor, who is chairman of the Consumers Protective Committee of the City of New York. May we have your address? Mrs. PRYOR. 217 West 125th Street for the Consumers Committee. My home address is 530 Cross Street, Westbury, Long Island. I just moved. Mrs. WERBELL. 265 Henry Street, Manhattan, is the Henry Street Settlement address. Mr. ANFUSO. You are with the YWCA? Mrs. PRYOR. Yes. Mr. ANFUSO. May we have your address? Mrs. PRYOR. It is Dobbs Ferry, N. Y. Mr. ANFUSO. Who brought those melons, by the way? Mrs. WERBELL. I did. Although perhaps they should not buy melons, sometimes families do like a treat. Some people do not eat meat. So, I think, melons are important. For that reason I bought them. The melons here came from California, so they told me, and it was 43 cents, at 15 cents a pound. The cantaloup was 30 cents. I am very much interested why the farmer gets that. I love melons. Mr. ANFUSO. You are a consumer? Mrs. WERBELL. Yes. Mr. ANFUSO. The cantaloup cost how much? |