Have you reason to believe that moral principles are fixed in the minds of the children, by the instruction they receive at the school?-Yes; we never discovered in our school one of the children that had been there ever committing any act of delinquency. The number of children in our school is 560.

Do you limit the time which children shall remain in the school?-No.

Are there any advantages which the children receive by continuing in the school, beyond those of merely learning to read?-No particular advantages, except presents at times for their good behaviour.

Do they improve in behaviour?-Yes, they do.

You conceive an increased number of Sunday schools throughout the Metropolis would benefit the lower classes of society-Materially so, because a number of the children of the very poor are occupied in the week by obtaining a portion of their livelihood, which will preclude their attendance at National schools. In one case I know a blind man, and the wife who is so infirm from affliction, that they are both dependent upon three small children for their support, the eldest of which is not twelve years of

age.

How do they obtain it?-They obtain it by selling various articles in the street.

Do those children come to your school?-They do. How long does it require to teach a child to read in a Sunday school?-A great deal depends upon the abilities of the child to receive instruction.

What is about the average?-We have had children leave the school at the end of nine months, who, when they entered, did not more than know the alphabet, and, when they left, could read in the Bible.

You would not state that as the average length of time? -I should consider twelve months sufficient.

With the education he would receive at the Sunday school alone; or do you include the additional instruction he would receive at home-Those cases I have mentioned have not been in the habit of receiving any instruction at home.

The children are only taught to read in the Sunday school?-Yes.

Do the children not learn to write
On a Sunday?No.

When do they learn to write ?-On
Any other evening ?-No other.
Do you teach them arithmetic

evening.

They do.

Monday evening.

Yes, on the Monday

Do you find the parents of poor children, very desirous

that their children should be instructed?-Where the parents could read themselves, but not otherwise, unless they conceive they shall be receiving some pecuniary aid by allowing their children to come.

Are you aware of any particular impediments which prevent poor children from receiving instruction ?-Where the parents are poor, the impediment arises from the want of suitable clothing to attend it.

After children have been in your school for any length of time, have you found that their dress has been improved, and their general appearance?-Yes, because the conduct of the parents have been improved in proportion to the conduct of their children.

Is your school in connexion with the National Society? No, it is not.

Do you know the average annual expense ?-Seventy pounds.

Does that include rent?-We have no rent to pay.

What are the expenses ?-The expense is for books, fire, candle, and door-keepers.

Do you give any rewards to the children for good be haviour?-Yes, and for attending in time.

What rewards do you give ?-We give them small tickets, a certain number of which purchase books, according to their wishes; they have an opportunity of making a selection; but we always place into their hands, for their first reward, a Testament.

What is the nominal value of the tickets?-Twelve tickets are valued at three halfpence.

Have you any circulating library attached to your school? -We have.

What entitles a child to the benefit of the circulating library? A recommendation, from a teacher, for good behaviour.

Do they take those books home with them?-They do. Have you any reason to believe they read the books from the circulating library on an evening to their parents?— We have known in each case, from recent examination, that they do.

Are the parents pleased to hear their children read to them of an evening?-Particularly.

Have you any reason to believe that the children, reading the library books, prevent the father spending the evening at a public-house?-I know one family, where a girl took home a tract that has been written by the Reverend Leigh Richmond, called "The Dairyman's Daughter; 22 the father, who was in the practice of spending the whole of his Sunday at a public-house, overheard the girl reading

this tract to her mother, and said that he thought he would go to the chapel; an opportunity occurred for him to carry the younger child to meet his daughter coming from school, and through the little girl's entreaty he attended the chapel; and since that time he has been in the habit of attending a place of worship instead of the public-house.

Have you reason to believe his moral habits are much improved?—Yes; he is a weaver by trade, but the want of employ has reduced the family to great distress; but the distress is not more, not for the mother and the children, than they were in the habit of enduring from his improper conduct when in work.

Do the children consider it as a great reward to be admitted to the benefits of the circulating library?— Those children who have an opportunity of reading; but most of the children having to work on the other days, have little time for reading, except on the Sunday.

Do you find, in general, the children are fond of books? -Yes, when they have learnt to read with readiness.

Do children in your schools commit portions of Scripture to memory?-They do, and are rewarded for it,

Is that the practice of the school?—It is.

Is there any annual examination of the children?—Yes, the first Sabbath in April.

And the improvement noted down?-Yes; each teacher is in the habit of putting down every Sabbath what the child learns, to prevent the child repeating the lesson a second time, and being able at any period to discover what that child has learnt while in the school.

Have you made any calculation of the annual expense of each child?—I have not.

But the whole of your expenses do not exceed 70%. per annum They do not, for 500 children. We receive 500 nearly, in the course of the year: upon the average, we have admitted twelve children every Sabbath for the last three months. As a proof of the willingness of the poor to learn, we have no trouble now to go round to get children into the school; they come with their parents.

Do you make a point of examining the children with respect to cleanliness-We do; and consider it the duty of the teacher to impress upon the minds of their parents, when visiting, that we require them to come in a cleanly condition; that is the only provision we make; we regard not their dress, if they are cleanly.

How many teachers have you in the school?-About twenty, male and female.

Do they attend twice a day ?-Three times each

teacher.

How many children are attached to one teacher?-In the Bible and Testament classes about eighteen to each teacher, sometimes twenty; in the lower classes, thirty or forty; they are taught, by lessons hung against the wall, in distinct classes.

Have you any monitors to assist the teachers?-Only in the lower classes.

The monitors are selected from the senior children?Yes, and those who are most sedate in their conduct.

Are you of opinion that the extension of Sunday-schools throughout the Metropolis would greatly benefit the lower classes of society?—Yes, judging from the manifest improvement in the vicinity of our schools, among the families of the very poorest who attend.

Mr. ROBERT BARBOR, again called in, and Examined.

WHAT change has taken place within your knowledge in the salaries of the Charter-house?—I am afraid I cannot give the Committee any exact account of that; they have been increased lately.

When was the last increase?-About two years ago.

Do you recollect generally the amount of the increase? -No, I do not, the masters' salary has been increased considerably; at the time of Dr. Fisher coming into office it was only 2001. a year; it was afterwards increased to 4501. but he had then other perquisites and small allowances, which are now included in the aggregate allowance of 800l. a year.

When he came into the office what might the whole, including the perquisites, amount to?-I should suppose that they were then 300%. a year; I speak now of money allowances.

You speak of that part of his income which answers to the present 800l.?—Yes.

Are the other salaries increased in the same proportion? -Certainly not; but the salaries as they are now increased include all the former small allowances, except the triennial allowance for linen.

Can you tell the Committee how many of the other salaries are increased?-My own was 80%. a year when I came into office 27 years ago; it was afterwards increased by 50%. but I was then supposed to have made some advantage, or to have had the opportunity, I would rather say, of making some advantage, by the balances remaining from time to time in my hands, which however I never availed myself of, certainly not to more than 20%. in the course of the 27 years; since that, the allowance which I now have is supposed to be in lieu of any such ad

vantage which 1 might so make. The registrer's salary has also been increased nearly in a similar proportion; and all the salaries indeed have increased, but I cannot speak with certainty to the amount of that increase.

Has the pocket money of the pensioners been increased? -The pocket-money of the pensioners has been increased within my time, from 147. to 207. a year; the wages of the servants have also increased.

By whom is the increase in the salaries made?-By orders in assembly of the governors. I might probably here say that no monies are issued except by special orders of assembly, or by warrants signed by the master, in the ordinary expenditure of the establishment.

What is the duty of the registrer?-The registrer acts as secretary to the governors; issues summonses for meetings, draws up the orders of assembly, prepares the leases, and all applications to the governors for renewals of leases, or for any other matters that are brought before them, and the petition necessarily passes through his hands; and he is also the solicitor for the conduct of any law proceedings.

Does he charge separately for his labour or attendance in any of those duties?-He has a fee of a guinea for every petition, and the tenants pay for their leases.

Does he bring in his bill separately for any law proceedings, besides money out of pocket?--I believe he makes out a regular bill of costs, as in ordinary cases.

Has he any other fee besides a guinea upon a petition? -An allowance of 407. a year for the expenses of coach hire, sending messengers to the governors, postage of the letters of correspondents; and I suppose 40l. a year does not pay him.

Has there been any increase in the exhibitions, of late years? When I was an exhibitioner, in the year 1808, at Christ Church, the exhibition was limited to 401.; it was afterwards increased on behalf of the bachelors of arts to 601.; and the subsequent increase made the 60l. 851.; and the 401. for the under graduate was increased to 657,

In what year did that take place?-1812; in the year 1813 the bachelor's exhibition was increased to 1007. and the under graduate's to 801. and that is their present standard.

Should you say that, generally speaking, the boys upon the foundation are in the present day of superior or inferior rank to that of the boys formerly?-I should not suppose that much alteration has taken place either way, since I was a boy on the foundation.

Do you know that Mr. Russel has introduced the new plan of education under Dr. Bell, and adopted it in