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y were welcome, they were glad to have them there. He extended his etings to the secret service men who were present but they were not welne. He proposed to read some clippings from newspapers. Most of the ppings concern the success of the Bolshevik movement in Russia, so he said. (Objection by counsel for defendants as incompetent, irrelevant, immaterial d not proper cross examination ; overruled; Exception.) Talked from eight to ten minutes. Mr. Tucker said that the DePont Powder mpany had bought $50,000,000. of bonds of the second Liberty loan; he said it meant that the children of the working men and their children's children vuld be paying millions of dollars interest on that loan for years to come

that this country's entrance into the war was caused by the capitalist ? classes of this country who got us into the war, the same as the Euro

pean countries, and the working men had nothing to do with the war, they had to do was to bear the brunt and also pay the bills. He said that at the pacifists had stood for in May, 1917, President Wilson had adopted : his slogan in December, 1917, without giving the pacifists credit for it, but stead of that, gave them a kick in the face. He said he expected to be rested before he left the meeting.

Cross-Examination by Mr. Stedman.

I arrived at the meeting at 8 o'clock and remained throughout the entire reting. I remember every one that talked. I made a verbal report and no ritten report. I was requested by Mr. Schroth of the American Protective ague to attend that meeting. Tucker made no reference to the indictment at I remember. I joined the American Protective League October, 1917. Mr. hroth went with me. Mr. O'Toole, Manager of the Murphy Chair Company 50 accompanied us. I called at Mr. Clyne's office to discuss what had been id there. I gave Mr. Schroth my signed statement as to what was said. I w that statement two weeks ago at 112 W. Adams St., the American Proctive League headquarters. Schroth wanted to have me identify my state ent.

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Redirect Eramination by Mr. Clyne.

The American Protective League is an organization of American citizens who e sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States and to defend the nited States against its enemies inside or out.

Recross-Esamination by Mr. Stedman.

I know one of the amendments to the Constitution of the United States is ving the right of suffrage to all classes, to all races, I don't recall any other, id that is the document which as an American citizen I swore to uphold. ne of the provisions of the bill of rights is that Congress has a right to deare war, and to levy taxes-it enumerates the rights of Congress, I thinks the prding is, duties, imposts and excises. I read the Constitution 2.5 years ago. don't know who organized the American Protective League or who its officers e in Chicago. I have never read the Constitution or Declaration of Prinples of the American Protective League. I don't know as it has any. Our peting were not public, they are private, and they are secret. Our organizaon works in cooperation with the Government. The American Protective pague is not created by any law of Congress, nor of the State of Illinois, or

any State in the union. It is a voluntary society. We have no tri. 14 bunals, we pass no judgment on individuals. We get orders from some

body and obey them. I don't know who he cooperates with. I do not 20w who determines his judgment or the committees.

RED C. HILL, called as a witness on behalf of the Government, testified as follows:

Direct Examination by Vr. Fleming. I attended a meeting at Wicker Park Hall on December 1917, at Chicago. efendants Tucker and Kruse were present. I arrived at about 8:10 A. M. here were about 700 present. The audience ranged from children to men of ) and 60 years old; there were quite a number of young men there. The leeting opened at 8:40 Kruse was the first speaker. He said in substance 7/21/17

688

Council of Socialist Conscripts. Addressing, copying, and classifying lists

3 days time @ $3— 550 two-cent stamps

9.00 11.00

20.00 This bill does not include the cost of envelopes and paper, Paid WM. F. KRUSE."

Serial No. Local Board for Division No.

Address
District Board No.

Address
1. Affidavit of Person Whose Discharge Is Sought
State of
County of

to wit: I,

Serial Numi being first duly sworn, do depose and say on oath, that on the day of

1917, I filed a notice with Local Board for Divis 689 No. appealing its decision on a claim for exemption filed by me wl the aforesaid Local Board on the day of

1917. I do further swear that the basis of my claim for exemption was that I a member of a well-recognized organization, organized and existing on a before May 18th, 1917, whose principles forbid its members to take part war, and that my membership in the said organization, the Socialist Par of America, Local Cook County, Branch

--. does exempt me fry military service under the provisions of Section 4 of the Selective Service A

I do further swear that it is my opinion that the Socialist Party of Ameri is clearly an organization within the meaning of the said Act, and that to refu exemption to any member of the Socialist Party is a violation of said law and the Constitution of the United States. It is inconceivable that the said law to be construed as applying only to religious sects since the Constitution of t1 United States expressly forbids Congress making any law respecting the e tablishment of religion or the exercise thereof. The only test under the la

one can come on the point of deciding whether or not an organization, 690 religious, political or of whatever nature,-actually has principles tha

forbid its members to engage in warfare. That the Socialist Party o America is clearly such an organization has been proven in the affidavits sul mitted by me to the Local Board in substantiation of my claim to be exempte copy of which and of the full text of the documents therein referred to canli furnished for the inspection of your Appeal Board.

I do further swear that to engage in war is absolutely contrary to my prind ples and that my convictions are entirely and fully in accord with the principle of the Socialist Party of America aforementioned.

I do hereby bind myself, to notify at once the said Appeal Board of an change which might modify or alter, in any way, my claim for discharge and report at once in person to said Appeal Board whenever the conditions entitlir me to discharge cease to exist.

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692 (Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government

Exhibit 105, a short article found in the Milwaukee Leader on the editorial page, of August 23, 1917 entitled. "Abolish the Presidency.")

Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit an article on editorial page column 1 page 6 edition of August 24, 1917, end“ Censoring God.") Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit from unnumbered page entitled "As Our Socialist Readers See It," from the : column of Milwaukee Leader, September 1, 1917, under ubject of “Comment.")

(Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit 108, cartoon on editorial page of Milwaukee Leader, entitled "A ful Contrast” edition of September 5, 1917.) Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit , on behalf of the Government article found on editorial page of Milwaukee der, of September 7, 1917, entitled “ The I. W. W. Raid ".) Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit cartoon on middle portion of the page of Milwaukee Leader of Sepember 11, 7, entitled "Are you this kind of Patriot?” Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit , article on editorial page of the Milwaukee Leader dated November 1, 1917 itled “ Barrage Fire".) Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit

an editorial found on editorial pag of Milwaukee Leader, December 5, 1915, itled “Be of Good Courage”.) Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit

an editorial found on the editorial page of the Milwaukee Leader of dne day, December 26, 1917, entitled “Unfathohable Are The Ways ".)

(Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's 1 Exhibit 114, an order signed by Adolph Germer, no. 5280, dated June 29,

1918, to Arbeihter Zeitung for printing and delivery of 25,000 copies of 1y Leaflet.) (Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence as Government's exbit 115, a letter bearing date July 19, 1917, to Irwin St. John Tucker, Southst corner of Madison and Halsted streets, Chicago.) (Whereupon counsel for defendants reiterated and entered their objections to I of the Exhibits heretofore entered in accordance with the rulings of the urt; that objections may stand to any and all evidence admitted by the Court: jections overruled ; exception.) (Said documents were thereupon by the Court admitted in evidence, marked yvernment's Exhibits 105 to 115, both inclusive, and the same are in words id figures as follows, to wit :)

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It will be a very interesting experiment if, as it has been reported that they ay, the Russian people establish a republic in which there is no president. ow, before they adopt their national constitution, is the time for them to give rious consideration to this and many other questions. We fervently hope that ley will not fasten upon themselves such a habble horse of a constitution as e have in this country. They have been doing some close observing and they are well aware that 1 the United States the president has appallingly dangerous powers. Except at the length of his term of office is limited, he might just as well be an mporer. He has more power than most of the crowned monarchs. We are ablishing an article from the Republican dealing with this subject. We have recious little in common with the Republican, but we accept truthful statelents from any source. The president, for example, can and does plunge the nation into a cruel war gainst its will. That is, he is allowed to conduct the foreign relations of the ation to suit himself, and, by his mistaken policy, to get the nation into a dilema hat results in war. This is one of the respects in which our nation utterly fails be a democracy. All along the line, the president has too much power.

138525—19-VOL 2-16

7/21/17

688

Council of Socialist Conscripts. Addressing, copying, and classifying lists-

3 days time $3— 550 two-cent stamps

9.00 11.00

20.00 This bill does not include the cost of envelopes and paper. "Paid WM. F. KRUSE."

Serial No. Local Board for Division No.

Address
District Board No.

Address
1. Affidavit of Person Whose Discharge Is Sought
State of
County of

to wit: I,

Serial Numbe being first duly sworn, do depose and say on oath, that on the day of

1917, I filed a notice with Local Board for Divisia 689 No.

appealing its decision on a claim for exemption filed by me wit the aforesaid Local Board on the day of

--, 1917. I do further swear that the basis of my claim for exemption was that I a a member of a well-recognized organization, organized and existing on an before May 18th, 1917, whose principles forbid its members to take part i war, and that my membership in the said organization, the Socialist Part of America, Local Cook County, Branch

-- does exempt me free military service under the provisions of Section 4 of the Selective Service Ad

I do further swear that it is my opinion that the Socialist Party of Ameria is clearly an organization within the meaning of the said Act, and that to refus exemption to any member of the Socialist Party is a violation of said law and o the Constitution of the United States. It is inconceivable that the said law i to be construed as applying only to religious sects since the Constitution of the United States expressly forbids Congress making any law respecting the es tablishment of religion or the exercise thereof. The only test under the law

one can come on the point of deciding whether or not an organization.690 religious, political or of whatever nature,-actually has principles that

forbid its members to engage in warfare. That the Socialist Party of America is clearly such an organization has been proven in the affidavits submitted by me to the Local Board in substantiation of my claim to be exemptel copy of which and of the full text of the documents therein referred to can be furnished for the inspection of your Appeal Board.

I do further swear that to engage in war is absolutely contrary to my prind ples and that my convictions are entirely and fully in accord with the principles of the Socialist Party of America aforementioned.

I do hereby bind myself, to notify at once the said Appeal Board of an change which might modify or alter, in any way, my claim for discharge and to report at once in person to said Appeal Board whenever the conditions entitling me to discharge cease to exist.

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692 (Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's

Exhibit 105, a short article found in the Milwaukee Leader on the editorial page, of August 23, 1917 entitled, "Abolish the Presidency.")

Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit

an article on editorial page column 1 page 6 edition of August 24, 1917, ened “Censoring God.") Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit

from unnumbered page entitled “As Our Socialist Readers See It," from the t column of Milwaukee Leader, September 1, 1917, under subject of “Comment.")

(Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit 108, cartoon on editorial page of Milwaukee Leader, entitled “A iful Contrast” edition of September 5, 1917.) Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit !, on behalf of the Government article found on editorial page of Milwaukee ider, of September 7, 1917, entitled “ The I. W. W. Raid ".) Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit i cartoon on middle portion of the page of Milwaukee Leader of Sepember 11, 7, entitled "Are you this kind of Patriot?Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit -, article on editorial page of the Milwaukee Leader dated November 1, 1917 itled “ Barrage Fire”.) (Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit ?, an editorial found on editorial pag of Milwaukee Leader, December 5, 1915, titled “Be of Good Courage”.) (Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's Exhibit 3, an editorial found on the editorial page of the Milwaukee Leader of edne day, December 26, 1917, entitled “Unfathohable Are The Ways ”.)

(Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence Government's 4 Exhibit 114, an order signed by Adolph Germer, no. 5280, dated June 29,

1918, to Arbeihter Zeitung for printing and delivery of 25,000 copies of ay Leaflet.) (Whereupon there was offered and received in evidence as Government's exbit 115, a letter bearing date July 19, 1917, to Irwin St. John Tucker, Southest corner of Madison and Halsted streets, Chicago.) (Whereupon counsel for defendants reiterated and entered their objections to | of the Exhibits heretofore entered in accordance with the rulings of the Jurt; that objections may stand to any and all evidence admitted by the Court: jections overruled; exception.) (Said documents were thereupon by the Court admitted in evidence, marked overnment's Exhibits 105 to 115, both inclusive, and the same are in words id figures as follows, to wit:)

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It will be a very interesting experiment if, as it has been reported that they ay, the Russian people establish a republic in which there is no president. ow, before they adopt their national constitution, is the time for them to give rious consideration to this and many other questions. We fervently hope that ley will not fasten upon themselves such a habble horse of a constitution as e have in this country. They have been doing some close observing and they are well aware that | the United States the president has appallingly dangerous powers. Except iat the length of his term of office is limited, he might just as well be an mporer. He has more power than most of the crowned monarchs. We are ublishing an article from the Republican dealing with this subject. We have recious little in common with the Republican, but we accept truthful stateyents from any source. The president, for example, can and does plunge the nation into a cruel war gainst its will. That is, he is allowed to conduct the foreign relations of the ation to suit himself, and, by his mistaken policy, to get the nation into a dilema hat results in war. This is one of the respects in which our nation utterly fails be a democracy. All along the line, the president has too much power.

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