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We again state that expenditures from Cherokee funds, even though a priated, are not used except upon the written request of the tribe expresad: its duly elected tribal council.

Mr. LEAVY. How much will the unexpended balance be on 2 item of the North Carolina Cherokee Indians?

Mr. Dopp. It will be approximately $50,000. This is the that Mrs. Jemison referred to the other day.

In 1936, $50,000 was appropriated, but it was not used 1: u appropriated at the request of the tribal council. The tribai changed. After we had our plans all made, and after they a re they decided that they would not spend the money.

Just recently, since the lst of March, I was at Cherokee ani aswith some of them and they indicated that the Indians wantei.. ahead with this enterprise. This item was in the bill, and wa... building of an arts and crafts building and shop and a small &..-.. place to lodge travelers going through the Great Smoky Tatra Park.

Mr. LAMBERTSON. I ha!e been over there.

Mr. Dopp. There are two places down there at the present time *: sell Indian-made goods.

Mr. LAMBERTSON. They sell expensive goods there.
Mr. Dopp. Some are quite expensive, but they are Indian masse
Mr. Rich. $50,000 would build quite an establishment.
Mr. Dond. It would

Mr. Rich. Why couldn't you cut it down to $25,000 and b.: mighty good building with that; you could build a mighty nire r sro for the arts and crafts.

Mr. Dopp. This is to maintain a place where they will sell art. 9crafts goods; there will also be a crafts shop where things are si and then they will have a tourist hotel where they could accommoes. the travelers going to the Great Smoky National Park. Thelt passes right through the (herokee Reservation and there is no pie nearby for tourists to stop.

Mr. LAMBERTSON. There is Gatlinburg on the west.

Mr. Dopp. Yes; Gatlinburg is on the west, and Brruan (: 10 miles away, is off the highway, and Sylvia is back about 14 north and east of the reservation.

Now, these Indians have an opportunity to undertake an eier prise which will bring a considerable amount of revenue to theta

This is out of their funds and it was first approved by the time and we merely ask for its continuance in the event the tnbe to go into this enterprise.

Mr JOHNSON. I think I indicated previously in this heanng th : am very much interested in the arts and crafts division I thek • can be made a wonderful asset to the Indians il properly handles, frankly, I am disappointed the way the organization has started lose fint place the ('ommissioner asked us for sufficient funds to get a expert who knew arts and crafts and who could do the job Wear him what we thought was a very reasonable amount of mones, : instead of getting a man who knew something about arts and emails as well as the Indians, and their ways, he went to Cleveland and perer up a very splendid gentleman, but one whom I hare been told y nothing about it, and of course could not possibly function etra:

Mr. Dopp. The ('herokees have a very real opportunity don n bert



Mr. Johnson. What is the next item?

Mr. Dodd. The next item is "Oklahoma: Quapaw (Seneca), $200." This amount was included in the appropriation bill for 1937 at the equest of the business committee of the Seneca Indians, who desired to [ig a well on the tribal gathering place of community ground. Deelopment of this well will safeguard the health of the Indians who ome together from time to time at the community meeting place. Che amount requested was all that these Indians had on deposit in he Treasury.


Mr. Johnson. The next item is "Oklahoma: * * * Shawnee Iowa) $300".

Mr. Dodd. This small amount was appropriated for 1937 at the ■equest of the Iowa Indians under the jurisdiction of the Shawnee Agency, Okla. The money is being used to purchase about 2 acres to se added to the tribal cemetery and to purchase wire for fencing the cemetery tract. The existing cemetery consists of only one-half acre )f ground reserved from an Indian allotment sold many years ago. It ;s not protected, and many of the tombstones have been displaced by •oving horses and cattle.

Mr. Lambertson. They are attorneys?

Mr. Dodd. Yes, sir; they are attorneys.


Mr. Johnson. The next item, on page 233, is for the Klamath Indians in Oregon. Mr. Dodd. I submit the following justification for the record:

The Klamath Reservation, in southern Oregon, is inhabited by approximately 1,310 Indians of the Klamath Tribe and contains 243,385 acres of allotted and 864,952 acres of tribal land. The reservation is heavily timbered and in normal times a considerable annual revenue is derived from timber sale contracts. The present balance to the credit of these Indians is approximately $328,856. Receipts during the past year were $367,655. Administrative expenses at Klamath have been defrayed almost entirely from tribal funds in the past. Aside from this authorization there is an annual expenditure for administrative expenses in connection with timber sales. The current budget authority carries $37,120 for this work. The expenditures for the latter purpose are reimbursed to the Federal Treasury through deductions made to cover costs of timber operations.

It is proposed to trnasfer the salary of the Indian policeman to the appropriation for maintaining law and order.

The item of $10,000 for the revolving fund for burial expenses is eliminated from the estimate.

To assist the tribe in its many problems, a contract has been negotiated with a firm of attorneys. In the supplemental appropriation act, fiscal year, 1936, $4,000 was appropriated to compensate the attorneys at the rate of $300 a month. Approximately $2,500 of that appropriation was available on July 1, 1936, for the present year. This will be enough for about 8 months. No provision is made in this estimate either for an amount to cover these costs to June 30, 1937, or to make payments in 1938 in accordance with the terms of the contract.

The estimate for 1938 may be tentatively segregated into the following: clae.fications:


(a) The administrative force at this agency, exclusive of those employees ergaged strictly in forestry work, consists of the superintendent and seven clerks. whose net salaries aggregate 810,280. In addition, a considerable amount r' irregulai labor is employed to maintain the grounds and perform various types ■' other work, including operation of heating plants and the disposal of ashes arc trash. For many years a much larger appropriation was provided for agenc;. administrative costs. With the depression and its effect upon the lumber industry, business of the agency diminished, and the annual appropriations were great! reduced, as will be noted from the following:


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Year: Appropriation

1930 $163,300

1931 148,000

1932 136,000

1933 50,000

Drastic reductions were made for 1933, at the insistence of representatives of the tribe, who appeared before the Appropriations Committees and protested against large appropriations of tribal funds for administrative purposes. To operate within the limited appropriation for 1933 it was necessary to dispose of the services of much-needed clerks. The present clerical force is inadequate u handle the volume of work at the agency. Funds are, therefore, requested for two additional clerks, at $1,440 net each. The remainder of the $4,000 increase requested under this head is for meeting ordinary operating expenses, such as the purchase of stationery and office supplies, communication service, traveling expenses of the superintendent and other employees, the purchase and repair of office and other equipment, and other incidental items.

(6) The Klamath Hospital required $23,299 for operation during 1935. A minimum of $23,300 will be required for 1938. This hospital has 37 beds, but it was utilized to a somewhat less extent than other hospitals in the Indian Service for several years. The daily patient average was 9 to 10. This condition was due principally to the fact that the Indians used personal funds for treatment in private hospitals. Another factor was the attitude of the Indians toward certain health employees. Conditions have changed materially during the last 2 year? and more use is now being made of the hospital. In fact, a request has been made for enlarging it and for providing facilities not now available. It is believed that under present conditions the increase is fully justified.

(c) This amount is to cover expenses of members of the tribal council when engaged on business of the tribe on the reservation. It will also be used to defray expenses of council members or representatives of the tribe when visiting the seat of government. This tribe has numerous problems relating to its timber assets and to other matters. For the purpose of discussing these problems, and for assisting in the enactment of legislation of general benefit to the tribe, it is customary for a delegation representing the tribe to visit Washington during each session of Congress. Funds must be provided to meet the traveling and other expenses of those selected for these visits. The delegation usually consists of two persons.

Language change.-—Text with reference to the revolving fund is eliminated.

Under recent rulings of the Comptroller General it is necessary that appropriation text specifically provide for per diem allowances; otherwise, expense^ of subsistence must be on an actual expense basis. It is more convenient to pay a per diem, particularly because individuals not familiar with the requirements of the standardized travel regulations would find it difficult tb keep accurate records of expenditures and in many cases w-ould fail to take receipts when necessary.


Xlr. Dodd. On page 233, in line 1, I would like to suggest changing »e figures of $64,650 to 876,650, and at the end of the paragraph lange the semicolon to a period and insert the following:

And $6,500 shall be available only for compensation and expenses of attorneys r services rendered, and to be rendered during the fiscal years 1937 and 1938 ider a contract approved by the Secretary of the Interior, in accordance with listing law.

The Indian delegate now in Washington has asked us to include 5,500 to cover a more adequate health service, primarily for the raveling expenses of a field nurse, and also more funds for agricultural xtension work.

I do not believe that the Klamath representative mentioned that rhen he was here with the attorney the other day, but it is an item hat has been urged upon us by them.

Mr. Johnson. All right.

Mi. Leavy. Does that attorney item have to be a continuing item?

Mr. Dodd. The contract is for a 3-year period.

Mr. Leavy. It will appear, then, for 1939?

Mr. Dodd. In 1939, yes; and as I recall, it is $4,000 a year.

Mr. Leavy. Is there a probability that it will remain year after

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Mr. Dodd. It will all depend upon what is done with legislation that the Indians are interested in.


There is another item that I feel I should call attention to, in line 3.

The tribe has voted year after year to pay these representatives that come to Washington a per diem of $8.

The Budget, in making the per diem uniform, has insisted in keeping this at $5. There should be a per diem paid these Indians in lieu of all other expenses. It covers their hotel, laundry, and telephone charges, taxicabs, and perhaps they get $1.50 or $2 as compensation while they are away from their business on the reservation. The tribe votes to pay that amount, and at the request of the tribe I suggest that "$5" be changed to "$8." It should be worded "not to exceed $S per diem."


Mr. Johnson. The next item is "South Dakota: Cheyenne River $42,500." Mr. Dodd. I submit the following statement for the record:

The Cheyenne River Reservation, comprised of 1,377,442 acres of allotted land and 432,043 acres of tribal land, is located in central South Dakota and is inhabited by approximately 3,288 Sioux Indians. These Indians have approximately $220,000 to their credit in the Treasury. Receipts during 1936 were $22,519.

The cost of operating the boarding school, hospital, and miscellaneous agency functions have been charged to tribal funds for many years. For 1936 the school expenses were transferred to gratuity funds.

The current appropriation act carried further transfers as follows:

(a) Conservation of health $25, 500

(b) Agricultural extension work 5, 000

Total... 30,500

(a) This includes the total cost of operating the Cheyenne River Hospital si institution of 34-bed capacity and maintaining an average patient attendance £ 1935 of 30.7. The institution has 10 employees. This institution is bail modernized through a recent allotment from the Public Works appropriation.

(b) This covered salaries and expenses of a stockman, a farmer, and line rioa.

In 1930 these Indians had on deposit in the Treasury more than SI,300,000,lithe annual income was in excess of $125,000. It will" be seen that in addition: using up the annual income for administrative purposes, the capital of this trir* has been greatly reduced. At the present rate of expenditure the cash asset* rf this group will be exhausted in from 5 to 7 years unless the annual income 3 greatly increased. We therefore propose to transfer this appropriation to tb* general gratuity support fund. The amount covers:

Salaries, 10 employees (net) $12,3?'

Irregular labor 3, CO'1

Supplies, including indigent relief 16.000

Communication service 7("'

Travel expenses 1.0ft'

Transportation of things 4, ."*>"■

Repairs to autos, farm machinery, and other equipment 1, 500

New equipment 2. of*'

Miscellaneous 9v'

Total 42, 500

Mr. Dodd. We exclude that item because the funds of those Indian.have been about depleted.


Mr. Johnson. The next item is found on page 235:
Utah: Uintah and Ouray ($6,500), $4,100.

There seems to be a decrease there.

Mr. Dodd. I submit the following justification for the record:

^or a number of years an appropriation from tribal funds of the Uintah aco Ouray Indians was available. From that appropriation numerous expenditures of direct benefit to the tribe were made, including subsistence for the indigent, burial expenses, and fair premiums. With the depletion of tribal funds, expenses of administration were transferred to gratuity appropriations, and it has not been possible to meet some of the expenses heretofore made. On June 6, 1935, and on several other occasions, the chairman of the tribal business committee urged an appropriation from tribal funds for various reservation uses. Agreeable to the request of the tribe an appropriation of S6,500 was made for this year. for the following purposes:

Construction of jail SI, 200

Employment special police for Indian gatherings 50(1

Fair premiums 500

Burial expense of indigents 2, 000

Purchase and operation cars for farm aids 2.O00

Maintenance of experimental plots 300

Total 6,500

The amount requested for the jail is small, but will permit construction wit?! the help of the Indians themselves, of a suitable building. Plans have been approved and construction authorized. This item is dropped from the 193$ estimate.

We have no funds for the employment of special officers for Indian gathering, and therefore approve the request of the tribe to use a portion of its funds for this service. Availability of funds for prizes at Indian fairs will stimulate the activities of the Indians in producing and conserving food. Gratuity funds are not sufficient to allow any larag sum to any agencv for fair premiums. These two items are repeated for 193$

Farm aids have t»een appointed on the Uintah Reservation. It was anticipated that these employees. th<r;eh paid a small salary, would provide their own transportation. It was hoped that a sufficient number of farm aids could be provided

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