Mr. O'NEAL. I would like to have you tell us what this personnel 3, what your set-up at Bartlesville is. Mr. HEDGES. That is set out in the justifications. Mr. O'NEAL. You have a junior building custodian, engineer, an lectrician, senior steam boiler fireman, skilled laborer, and so forth, total of eight men. Is that correct? Dr. FINCH. Yes. Mr. O'NEAL. Will they be on for the full fiscal year 1938? Will you ave them there by the first of August or the first of July? Mr. HEDGES. As soon after July 1 as we succeed in finding cometent men for those positions they will be filled. They are all under ivil service. Mr. O'NEAL. The building, as far as the mechanical set-up is conerned, is ready and waiting for the personnel now? Mr. HEDGES. It will be by the end of the fiscal year. SERVICE RENDERED TO OIL COMPANIES Mr. O'NEAL. May I ask a question about the service rendered to he oil companies? It seems to me that there is a great deal that the overnment is doing for these companies that are well able to pay or those services. Do you ever charge them for any of these foreasts or these services rendered to the private companies which get The chief benefit, apparently, out of these services? Dr. FINCH. No charge is ever made for these services. Mr. O'NEAL. Is it not true that the great benefit goes to the private orporations, the oil companies and others? Dr. FINCH. It is of great benefit to the entire industry. Mr. O'NEAL. You think it is of great benefit to the States? Dr. FINCH. The private companies contribute often through coperative arrangements whereby they pay part of the cost of investiation and supply some of the personnel, or pay the personnel and quipment expenses. Mr. O'NEAL. That would be over and above the amount we approriate for that purpose? Dr. FINCH. Yes. Mr. O'NEAL. But there is not any distinct charge for any of those ervices? Mr. FINCH. No charge for the services; no. Mr. RICH. Is it a part of the function of these oil companies to try o get your Department to do certain work that is going to accrue to heir benefit and not to the oil industry as a whole? Dr. FINCH. No; we plan that work so that it will be of value to Toups, communities, and regions. Mr. RICH. Do any of these large industries, say, furnish you with hen to do work, and then get assistance out of you on their own articular properties which accrues to their particular benefit more han it does to the industry as a whole? Dr. FINCH. I think all of our work is of general application to the ndustry. Mr. SCRUGHAM. Mr. Rich, have the charges made by the Indeendent Oil Producers' Association been taken up? Mr. O'NEAL. We were discussing that when you came in. We went nto that with Mr. White, and he made a very full statement on that ubject. MINING EXPERIMENT STATIONS Mr. O'NEAL. The next item is mining experiment stations. Projects 1938 1937 1936 1. Tucson-Mining and metallurgy of southwestern ores... 2. Salt Lake-Metallurgy of lead and zinc.. 3. Minneapolis-Preparation and smelting of Lake Superior iron and manganese ores.. 4. Reno-Mining and treatment of rare and precious metals. 25, 100 25, 011 5. Seattle-Beneficiation of coal and ores of Pacific Northwest and Aalaska 6. Rolla-Milling and ore dressing.. 7. Tuscaloosa-Beneficiation of southern coal and ores... 18.415 10. College Park-Experiment station. 8. New Brunswick-Treatment and utilization of nonmetallic minerals. 9. Boulder City. Total.... 334, 850 269, 850 203.438 4 charwomen (CU-2) at $1,080. 1. College Park-operation and maintenance.-The new mining experiment ststion building at College Park, Md., now being constructed from a $350,000 Public Works allotment, will be completed and occupied toward the end of this fiscal year. Funds for operation and maintenance of this building and for necessary service must be provided in 1938. The annual requirement for this purpose is estimated at $65,000, as follows: Administrative: 1 supervising engineer (P-5) 1 principal clerk (CAF-6) 1 clerk (CAF-4) --- 3 clerks-stenographers (CAF-2) at $1,440 3 junior stenographers (CAF-2) at $1,440_ 3 junior messengers (CU-1) at $600. 1 property clerk (CAF-4) 1 shipper (CU-3). Custodial: 1 superintendent (CU-9). 2 watchmen (CU-3) at $1,200. 1 telephone operator (CAF-1). 1 janitor (CU-4). 1 labor foreman (CU-4). 4, 320 2 laborers (CU-2) at $1,080.. 1, 440 1 principal instrument maker (SP-7) 2, 160 1 senior instrument maker (SP-6) 2, 500 1 machinist (CU-6) 2, 000 1 carpenter (CU−6). 1, 680 1 electrician (CU−6). 1, 680 1 auto mechanic (CU-5) 1, 680 2 skilled laborers (CU-3) at $1,200. 1, 560 W. a. e. labor.. 2, 400 1, 000 29, 920 Mr. O'NEAL. Under "Mining experiment stations" there is an increase of $65,000, and I also notice, as has been true in nearly all of these items, since 1928, that this is the largest appropriation being asked for, much larger than practically all the other years. Is that due to greatly increased work, or to greater demands for your services. from the standpoint of the public? Mr. HEDGES. Yes. The increase requested for 1938 is due to the completion and occupation of the new experiment station building at College Park, Md. EXPERIMENT STATION, COLLEGE PARK, MD. Mr. O'NEAL. As I understand it, there is in this appropriation $113,000 asked for the College Park experiment station; is that correct? Mr. HEDGES. Yes, sir, an increase of $65,000. $48,000 of the $113,000 is for work now going on at other places that will be transferred to the new station at College Park. Mr. O'NEAL. $113,490 is requested for the College Park experiment station, as I understand it, the New Brunswick station had an appropriation last year of $48,490. The New Brunswick station is being abandoned, and that amount is being transferred to College Park? Mr. HEDGES. Yes, sir, and the estimate also includes $65,000 of new money. Mr. O'NEAL. Yes; $65,000 new money. Will you explain the work that was done at New Brunswick, and whether that same work will be done at College Park? Dr. FINCH. Yes; that will be moved bodily and continued. That is a part of the Nonmetals Division of the Bureau's Technologic Branch. Mr. O'NEAL. What will be moved bodily? Dr. FINCH. All of the activities at New Brunswick. Mr. O'NEAL. How large a staff is there at New Brunswick, may I ask? Dr. FINCH. Twelve men. Mr. O'NEAL. And in that $48,000 is included the salary of the 12 men who are being moved to College Park and the supplies and materials that they need? Dr. FINCH. Yes. Mr. O'NEAL. Have you any idea as to how those items are divided between personnel and supplies? In other words, how do you arrive at the $48,000 that you need? Mr. HEDGES. I have no tabulation here of the distribution between salaries and supplies, but I can furnish them to you if you would like them. (NOTE. The following figures were supplied later:) Mr. O'NEAL. What amount of extra work will be done at College Park over and above what should be done at New Brunswick? I am trying to get a break-down between the $65,000 and the $48,000 to know whether some of this could be combined. Mr. HEDGES. The break-down of the $65,000 is given in the justifications. Dr. FINCH. It is quite different. Mr. O'NEAL. Will these two organizations be distinct and separate at College Park? The New Brunswick end of it is to be brought out to College Park, and the College Park end of it is to stay at College Park? Mr. HEDGES. They will continue to be separate activities. We have at College Park at the present time some of the personnel in the Metallurgical Division, Dr. Hess, the principal minerologist and some of our mining division staff. Mr. O'NEAL. As I understand it, your are bringing here practically the same set-up that you had at New Brunswick, which amounts to $48,000-plus. Is there any justification in the break-down showing the personnel there and the supply items which make up the $48,000? Mr. HEDGES. We can supply that. (See p. 439.) Mr. O'NEAL. But the break-down you have of the $65,000 as compared to that New Brunswick group, representing $48,400 will represent additional work? Mr. HEDGES. Yes. Mr. O'NEAL. And none of the positions mentioned here, administrative, custodial, or otherwise, are the same that were in the New Brunswick set-up? Mr. HEDGES. No. Mr. O'NEAL. You did not need your custodial force that you had at New Brunswick? Did you have a custodial force there, janitors, and people handling the building, taking care of it? Mr. HEDGES. Oh, yes. We have a rented building there. Mr. O'NEAL. You certainly had some messengers. Mr. FIELDNER. Everybody does his own messenger work and his own janitor work. Mr. O'NEAL. You mean you bring down every employee that you have at New Brunswick, down to College Park? Mr. HEDGES. Yes; but we do not employ special janitors at stations like that at New Brunswick. Mr. O'NEAL. Just what employees did you have at New Brunswick? Mr. HEDGES. We have 13 regular employees and 2 part-time laborers. There are also 3 men paid from cooperative funds. Mr. O'NEAL. What were they? Mr. FIELDNER. They are practically all technical men. There is one stenographer, one mechanic, and two laborers. The others are all qualified technical people. Mr. O'NEAL. The other four were custodial? Mr. FIELDNER. They would be custodial, mechanical, and clerical. Mr. O'NEAL. You have already a set-up here for custodial care, have you not? You will not need them at College Park. Mr. HEDGES. We need additional clerks. There was only one up there. The large building at College Park will also require regular janitor service, and watchmen, and employees to man the shops for building equipment used in the constantly changing investigative work. Mr. O'NEAL. If you will, give us a break-down of that $48,000 so that we will have a complete picture of it. Mr. HEDGES. Yes. Break-down of allotment for New Brunswick Station salaries Laborer (unclassified), $0.50 per hour, Works Administration employee.. Do... Total, personal services.. $5, 800 3, 600 3, 300 3, 200 2, 600 2, 200 2,000 1, 920 1, 920 1, 620 1, 620 1, 560 1, 440 1, 800 1, 800 34, 580 Administrative charges: Services of administrative branch for drafting, editorial, account- Supplies, equipment, and continuous services. Moving to College Park.. A part of the Metallurgical Division is now working in College Park space loaned to us temporarily by the University of Maryland. Mr. O'NEAL. You would use some of the force at College Park. Mr. HEDGES. Yes. Some of the technical men who will work in the ew station are at the present time occupying rooms in the University baldings, pending the completion of this station. Mr. O'NEAL. Are they mentioned in this set-up we have here? Mr. HEDGES. No. Mr. O'NEAL. They are over and above that? Mr. HEDGES. Yes. Mr. O'NEAL. They are appropriated for out of some other fund? Mr. HEDGES. Yes. Mr. O'NEAL. Is there any general statement on this? Mr. HEDGES. There is none set up, but I can give you one. Mr. O'NEAL. I think it would be well to have in the record a comlete set-up on College Park. There are some things appropriated ander this item that it is difficult to follow. Mr. SCRUGHAM. You will furnish that for the record, please, Distor? Dr. FINCH. Yes, sir. |