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Danielson, Thomas L., Riverside, Calif., to members of the Committee
on Interior and Insular Affairs, dated November 23, 1965..
Davis, H. Jay, Orange, Calif., to House Interior and Insular Affairs
Committee, dated November 27, 1965...

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David, Jack E., and Ada J., to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated November
17, 1965.

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Denneen, Bill and others, Allan Hancock College, Hiking and Nature
Study Group, to Public Lands Subcommittee, dated November 2,
1965-

Dexter, Laurence N., chairman of the board, Texas Conservation
Council, Inc., Houston, Tex., to House Committee on Interior and
Insular Affairs, dated November 13, 1965----

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Dingell, Hon. John D., Member of Congress, to Hon. Wayne Aspinall,

dated November 8, 1965--

Dupay, Logan, president, Los Montados de Fontana, Inc., Fontana,
Calif., to Public Lands Subcommittee, dated November 3, 1965--

Durslag, Melvin, to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated December 6, 1965,

plus column from the November 16, 1965 Los Angeles Herald-

Examiner..

Edison, T. W., president, Western Montana Fish & Game Association,

Missoula, Mont., to House Interior and Insular Affairs Committee,

dated December 14, 1965---

Finn, Joan A., executive director, Long Beach Council of Camp Fire
Girls, Inc., to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated November 15, 1965___
Fisher, Alfred M., executive secretary, Yucca Valley Board of Real-
tors, Yucca Valley, Calif., to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated October
27, 1965

Frostig, Thomas, KAVR, Apple Valley, Calif., to Hon. Walter S.
Baring, dated October 28, 1965..

Fullerton Boy Scout Troop 11, Fullerton, Calif., to House Interior
Subcommittee, dated November 15, 1965 (telegram)__.

Gerhart, Mrs. John W., president, Long Beach Council of Camp Fire

Girls, Inc., Long Beach, Calif., to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated

November 12, 1965-

Gillespie, Edmond S., associate professor of engineering, San Fernando
Valley State College, to Public Lands Subcommittee, dated No-
vember 25, 1965.

Gillette, Mrs. F. E., director, Palomar District, California Garden
Clubs, Inc., Vista, Calif., to chairman, Public Lands Subcommittee,
dated November 12, 1965__.

Golson, Bruce, Apple Valley, Calif., to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated

November 15, 1965.

Gross, Arthur B., director, County of San Bernardino Economic Devel-

opment Commission, to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated November 30,

1965..

Helps, Giles, KAVR, Apple Valley, Calif., to Hon. Walter S. Baring--

Hendon, Mrs. Larry, president, Young Women's Christian Associa-

tion, Redlands, Calif., to House Committee on Interior and Insular

Affairs, dated October 26, 1965.

Henry, Mrs. Ruth, program chairman, Vista Garden Club, Vista,

Calif., to House Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs, dated

November 6, 1965..

Hinckley, Hon. Stewart, State assemblyman, San Bernardino County,

to Hon. Wayne Aspinall, dated November 8, 1965--

Hines, F. L., Scout executive, Boy Scouts of America, North Orange

Council, Inc., No. 37, Anaheim, Calif., to Committee on Interior

and Insular Affairs, dated December 6, 1965..

Hopper, Barbara K., president, California Audubon Society, Wood-

land Hills, Calif., to House Committee on Interior and Insular

Affairs, dated November 6, 1965...

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Hudson, John, publisher, Lucerne Valley Leader, Lucerne Valley,
Calif., to Hon. Walter Baring, dated November 16, 1965..

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Merchant, Douglas G., director, Green Oak Ranch Boys' Camp, Vista,

Calif., to Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs, dated Decem-

ber 13, 1965.

Millar, Sylva C., and Wendel K., to Public Lands Subcommittee,

dated November 10, 1965_

Millikan, Mrs. Chas. E., secretary, Idyllwild Protective League, Inc.,
Idyllwild, Calif., to Public Lands Subcommittee, dated November 8,
1965__

Montague, Arthur H., Memorial Cactus and Succulent Society, to
House Interior and Insular Affairs Committee, dated November 5,

1965_

Morancy, M. W., Northland Ski Manufacturing Co., Laconia, N.H.,
to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated December 23, 1965..
Mossman, Ross L., secretary, Redlands Fish & Game Conservation
Association, to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated November 15, 1965--
Mostek, Raymond, president, Illinois Audubon Society, Chicago, Ill.,
to House Interior and Insular Affairs Committee, dated November
10, 1965

Mounsey, William Bird, chairman, Wilderness Workshop, Colorado
Open Space Coordinating Council, to chairman, Public Lands
Subcommittee, dated November 11, 1965.

Mulvaney, Edward A., president, the TRW Systems Democratic

Club, to House Interior and Insular Affairs Committee, dated

November 30, 1965_.

Palladino, John A., chairman, Riverside Chapter, Sierra Club, to
Subcommittee on Public Lands, dated November 26, 1965__

Panzer, Richard E., Doris I., and David E., Riverside, Calif., to Public

Lands Subcommittee, dated November 8, 1965_--

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Pedersen, Elbert, president, Scandia Norsemen Ski Club of Los
Angeles, to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated November 16, 1965
(telegram)..

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Poland, Paul B., moderator, Highland Congregational Church, High-
land, Calif., to Public Lands Subcommittee, dated November 12,
1965.

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Tyler, John, chairman, the Nature Conservancy, Southern California

Chapter to House Interior and Insular Affairs Committee, dated

November 29, 1965-

Valentine, John, president, Orange Y's Men's Club, Orange, Calif.,
to House Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs, dated Jan-
uary 4, 1964___

Varner, Bruce D., secretary, San Bernardino Junior Chamber of

Commerce, to Hon. Wayne N. Aspinall, dated October 29, 1965---

Walker, Mrs. Weston, executive secretary, Orange County Memorial
Garden Center, to Public Lands Subcommittee, dated November 2,
1965--

Weber, Henry M., California Garden Clubs, Inc., La Quinta, Calif.,
to House Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs, dated Novem-
ber 2, 1965.

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Wetbrook, Robert, China Lake Ski Club, Ridgecrest, Calif., to Hon.
Walter S. Baring, dated November 17, 1965 (telegram)_

Willis, Leta, Fontana Garden Club, Fontana, Calif., to Public Lands

Subcommittee, dated October 30, 1965--

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Wood, Robert G., Big Bear Lake, Calif., to House Interior and Insular
Affairs Committee, dated November 19, 1965--

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Wright, Betty, president, Ski Club Alpine, Palos Verdes Peninsula,
Calif., to Hon. Walter S. Baring, dated November 23, 1965_-_.
Zimmerman, Fern, chairman, Conservation Committee, Sea and Sage,
Santa Ana, Calif., to Public Lands Subcommittee, dated November
2, 1965...

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Palomar District, California Garden Clubs, Inc., dated October 27,
1965 (resolution)_.

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Rancho Mirage Chamber of Commerce, resolution dated November 3,
1965__.

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San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors dated December 30,
1963-

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SAN GORGONIO WILDERNESS AREA

TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 1965

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC LANDS OF THE

COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS,

San Bernardino, Calif.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m., in the Empire Room, National Orange Show Building, San Bernardino, Calif., Hon. Walter S. Baring (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.

Mr. BARING. The Public Lands Subcommittee will come to order. I am Congressman Baring, chairman of the Public Lands Subcommittee. To my left is Harold "Biz" Johnson, Congressman from California; to my right is Bill Shafer, the committee counsel; sitting next to Mr. Shafer is Congressman Craig Hosmer, of California.

I would like to introduce, although not necessary, your own Congressman, Ken Dyal, from the San Bernardino area, who will make the opening remarks and welcoming.

STATEMENT OF CONGRESSMAN KENNETH DYAL, U.S. REPRESENTATIVE, 33D CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, STATE OF CALIFORNIA

Mr. DYAL. Thank you, Congressman Baring.

I am very pleased that these gentlemen could leave their districts at a time when we have had a long session of the Congress. I know every one of them are anxious to be in their district. We very much appreciate their being here in our county to hold these field hearings for the purpose of discussing the San Gorgonio Wilderness Area.

This is unfinished business that was left from the previous act and it is important that they be here and I am highly gratified that Congressman Baring, Congressman Johnson, and Congressman Hosmer would take time off from their busy schedules to be with us.

I would like to announce, Congressman Baring, that Mr. Goldberg, who operates this building, has consented to set aside a cafeteria line in the building.

As you probably know, Mr. Chairman, a number of the people who are here today for the hearing as well as for tomorrow, come from many miles distance, some of them as far as 100 miles away. In order to have luncheon facilities, he wants you to know, if you desire, that there will be a cafeteria line.

It might be helpful to the management if we could have a show of hands so he may plan accordingly. [Show of hands.]

Thank you very much.

Mr. Chairman, the opportunity that you have given our people who might not be able to go to Washington for formal hearings later is

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