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APPROPRIATION BILL FOR 1939

HEARINGS

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE
COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

SEVENTY-FIFTH CONGRESS

THIRD SESSION
. ON THE

INTERIOR DEPARTMENT
APPROPRIATION BILL FOR 1939

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COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS

EDWARD T. TAYLOR, Colorado, Chairman

CLARENCE CANNON, Missouri
CLIFTON A. WOODRUM, Virginia
JOHN J. BOYLAN, New York
LOUIS LUDLOW, Indiana
THOMAS S. MCMILLAN, South Carolina
MALCOLM C. TARVER, Georgia
JED JOHNSON, Oklahoma
J. BUELT, SNYDER, Pennsylvania
WILLIAM B. UMSTEAD, North Carolina
WILLIAM R. THOM, Ohio
JOHN F. DOCKWEILER, California
JAMES McANDREWS, Illinois
EMMET O'NEAL, Kentucky
OEORQE W. JOHNSON, West Virginia
JAMES Q. SCRUQHAM, Nevada
JAMES M. FITZPATRICK, New York
LOUIS C. RABAUT, Michigan
JOACHIM O. FERNANDEZ, Louisiana
MILLARD F. CALDWELL, Florida
DAVID D. TERRY, Arkansas
JOHN M. HOUSTON, Kansas
J. BURRWOOD DALY, Pennsylvania
JOE STARNES. Alabama
ROSS A. COLLINS, Mississippi
CHARLES H. LEAVY, Washington
WILLIAM D. McFARLANE, Texas
JOSEPH E. CASEY, Massachusetts

Marcellus C. Sheild,

JOHN TABER, New York
ROBERT L. BACON, New York
RICHARD B. WIGOLESWORTH, Massac
WILLIAM P. LAMBERTSON, Kansas
D. LANE POWERS, New Jersey
J. WILLIAM DITTER, Pennsylvania
ALBERT E. CARTER, California
ROBERT F. RICH. Pennsylvania
CHARLES A. PLUM LEY, Vermont
EVERETT M. DIRKSEN, Illinois
ALBERT J. ENGEL, Michigan

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Subcommittee On Interior Department

EDWARD T. TAYLOR, Colorado, Chairman

JED JOHNSON, Oklahoma
JAMES G. SCRUQHAM, Nevada
EMMET O'NEAL, Kentucky
JAMES M. FITZPATRICK, New York
CHARLES H. LEAVY, Washington

ROBERT F. RICH, Pennsylvania
WILLIAM P. LAMBERTSON,
ALBERT E. CARTER, California

INTERIOR DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATION BILL, 1939

HEARINGS CONDUCTED BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, MESSB8. EDWABD T. TAYLOR (CHAIRMAN), JED JOHNSON (OKLA.), JAMES O. 8CRUOHAM, EMMET O'NEAL, JAMES M. FITZPATRICK, CHARLES H. LEAVY, ROBERT F. RICH, WILLIAM P. LAMBERTSON AND ALBERT E. CARTER, OF THE COMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, IN CHARGE OF THE INTERIOR DEPARTMENT APPROPRIATION BILL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1939, ON THE FOLLOWING DAYS, NAMELY:

The Chairman. In opening the hearings on the Interior Department appropriation bill for the fiscal year 1939, I wish to say that Iwill be present at these hearings as much of the time as possible. As you all know, I have been chairman of this subcommittee for many years and I expect to continue in that position as long as my party is in control and as a member of the subcommittee as long as I remain in Congress, because this Department and the matters that come before this subcommittee are tremendously vital to all of the arid States of the West and especially to Colorado; and when you come to mark up the bill 1 will be present all of the time.

1 have looked over the Budget estimates and, in conference with our efficient clerk to the subcommittee, Mr. Duvall, I know fairly well what is before us in connection with the next annual appropriation bill. But as you are all aware, the duties of the chairman of the general Appropriations Committee of the House are such that he cannot devote a great deal of time to any one subcommittee, and during my absence I hope that the ranking member of the subcommittee, Mr. Johnson of Oklahoma, will carry on in my place and expedite the hearings.

Tuesday, January 18, 1938.

COMMISSION OF FINE ARTS

STATEMENT OF H. P. CAEMMERER, SECRETARY, FINE ARTS
COMMISSION

The Chairman. Gentlemen, the Secretary of the Interior will not be here this morning, and, therefore, we have decided to take up the Commission of Fine Arts and the Mount Rushmore Memorial Commission.

I have asked Mr. O'Neal to take charge of the hearing and conduct the examination this morning. You will proceed, Mr. O'Neal.

Mr. O'neal. We have with us this morning Mr. Caemmerer, the secretary of the Fine Arts Commission.

JUSTIFICATION OF ESTIMATE FOR 1939

Mr. Caemmerer, do you have any general statement you wo like to make before going into the details of your estimates?

Mr. Caemmerer. I have submitted a statement, and I would 1 to insert it in the record. I think the committee has copies of" It is a concise statement.

Mr. O'neal. Very well.

(The statement referred to is as follows:)

The Commission Of Fine Arts

The estimate of appropriation for the Commission of Fine Arts for the fis. year 1939 amounts to $10,000, including an item of $300 for miscellaneous printI and binding, and is the same as the appropriation for the fiscal year 1938. The has been no change in the wording of legislation. The amount of $10,000 w authorized by Congress for annual expenses at the time of the establishment of t. Commission of Fine Arts 27 years ago, although the duties of the Commissi* have been enlarged in numerous ways since then.

During the fiscal year 1937 the Commission of Fine Arts held 11 official meeting and numerous committee meetings. The members are constantly attending 1 'submissions that are submitted to the Commission of Fine Arts for advice, in vol i ing the fine arts, particularly architecture, sculpture, painting, and landscap architecture. The President, the executive departments, and committees c Congress consult the Commission on questions of art. Also Members of Congrei individually confer with the Commission as to fine-arts projects. A list of th more important projects submitted during the fiscal year 1937 is included in thi report.

Travel expenses incurred for meetings of the Commission of Fine Arts durinj the fiscal year 1937 were as follows:

Traveling expenses, Commission of Fine Arts, July 1, 1986, to June 30, 1937

1. July 17, 1936, New York City:

Mr. Moore $24. 10

Mr. Borie 9. 30

Mr. Shepley 5. 00

Mr. Caemmerer 25. 05

Total T 63. 45

2. Sept. 16, 1936, Boston, Mass.:

Mr. Clarke.. 34.05

Mr. Savage 25. 90

Mr. Caemmerer 47. 45

Total 107.40

3. Oct. 23 and 24, 1936, Washington, D. C:

Mr. Moore 21. 85

Mr. Ho wells 41.45

Mr. Savage 34. 45

Mr. Borie 23. 85

Mr. Shepley 49. 30

Blue & Grav Sightseeing Co 6. 00

Total 176.90

Nov. 4-6, Charles Moore, trip to New York City 47. 95

4. Dec. 12, 1936, Washington, D. C:

Mr. Clarke 25.95

Mr. Lawrie 21. 95

Mr. Howells 26. 40

Mr. Savage 29. 10

Mr. Borie 16.65

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