Congress does not do it with regard to churches, for instance, with regard to purely eleemosynary institutions. We always let the States and the Territories and the districts do that by their own proper laws to fit their own cases. I question that section also in here and that, of course, the committee will probably go into. In other words, while Congress can exempt an organization from Federal taxes, I do not think Congress can exempt an organization from Territorial, State, or district taxes, except by the passage in Congress as to the District of Columbia, say, of what amounts to an ordinance of the District just like a city council passing an ordinance, because, unfortunately, Congress is the city council for the District of Columbia and that is the only way that could be done. Those are a few points of draftsmanship that I thought should be called to your attention. Mrs. RICHARDS. Correct. May I ask a question, sir? Senator KILGORE. Yes. Mrs. RICHARDS. The boys, you know, that came back, we call them our veterans. They are permitted to have a loan for a home to take care of the wife and the children? Is there any way that I could work out a program like that where the war widow, who still has the burden of raising the family, and probably the in-laws included; would it have to be done by private individuals? Senator KILGORE. As slowly as we have been proceeding in the getting of homes, even to buy, even if they do buy, if they do get a loan, with no more progress than has been made in the past 2 or 3 months on that, I am not very optimistic yet. Mrs. RICHARDS. The architects here will tell you about that, too. Senator KILGORE. You must realize this one factor, that for war widows with service-connected disability, there is compensation, and of course, with the exception of a few rare cases, there is insurance. Mrs. RICHARDS. Very little, though; $20 a month insurance is not very much. Senator KILGORE. No; $57.50. The $20 is for compensation. It is $57.50 insurance. I have run into some who are dead and did not get-did not take out insurance. Most of them did. The one who did not is rather the rare case. There was a tremendous insurance campaign that went on. Of course, that would be the subject for another bill. That does not come into this one at all, that is, the question of home financing. As I say, I am not a bit optimistic about home building at all. Senator KILGORE. Yes, I know, but do you know how much rent he charges a month on that machine? Mr. RICHARDS. It is quite terrific. Warren and Whitmore are the architects. Senator KILGORE. I do not know where you are going to get roads big enough to haul this machine over to the location; it is gigantic. Mrs. RICHARDS. It is terrific, is it not? Senator KILGORE. Those people are good on machine design but sometimes they try to run a battleship down an alley. However, you cannot do that. Mrs. RICHARDS. The little war widow will not be forgotten. Senator KILGORE. And I agree with you that they must be taken care of. Mrs. RICHARDS. And it must be done by methods-by men of enterprise and finance, because, as you know, Congress has done its very best. Thank you very much.. May I make another statement to you, that I had some good news from Congressman Sumners. My bill is out in committee and that is worth knowing. Senator KILGORE. You mean it is out of subcommittee and into the Committee of the Whole? Mrs. RICHARDS. It is into Committee No. 1. I thought you might be interested in that. I will submit this, but I should like to have it returned. Senator KILGORE. It will be marked as an exhibit and copied in. (The paper referred to is marked "Exhibit L" and is as follows:) RECORDER Of Deeds WASHINGTON, D. C. This is to certify that the pages attached hereto constitute a full, true, and complete copy of a certificate of incorporation of National Committee for All War Widows, dated on the 22d day of March, A. D. 1946, and recorded on the 22d day of March, A. D. 1946, at 9:48 a. m., as the same appears of record in this office. In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of this office to be affixed, this the 22d day of March A. D. 1946. [SEAL] MARSHALL L. SHEPARD, By ELEANORE LEE DAGUE, No. 29613-RECORDED MARCH 22, 1946, AT 9:48 A. M. CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION We, the undersigned, all citizens of the United States and a majority citizens and residents of the District of Columbia, desiring to associate ourselves as a corporation pursuant to the provision of title 29 of chapter 6 of the District of Columbia Code (1940), do hereby certify as follows: First. The name or title by which this corporation shall be known in law shall be National Committee for all War Widows. Second. The term for which it is organized shall be perpetual. Third. The particular business and objects of said corporation shall be to perpetuate the honor bestowed on the members of such corporation by having been called upon to give their husbands in the service of the Nation, and to create ways and means (a) of helping war widows in need, (b) of directing war widows to positions of employment producing satisfactory income for their support (c) of aiding in the support of minor children of war widows, (d) of devising plans of group insurance for war widows in case of accident or sickness, (e) of making provision for legal and medical aid to war widows when needed, and (f) generally of promoting the welfare of war widows and their dependents, to publish a magazine or other publications, and generally to do any and all such acts and things as may be necessary and proper to carry into effect the purposes of the corporation. Fourth. The number of its trustees, directors, or managers for the first year of its existence shall be three. In testimony whereof we have this 22d day of March, 1946, hereunto set our hands and seal. [SEAL] [SEAL] [SEAL] LILLIAN RICHARDS, Life Chairman. IRVING L. DENHAM. DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, SS: I, Jane Dodge, a notary public in and for the District of Columbia, do hereby certify that Lillian Richards, Fred Silbersberger Latham, and Irving L. Denham, parties to a certain certificate of incorporation bearing date on the 22d day of March 1946, personally appeared before me in said District, the said Lillian Richards, Fred Silbersberger Latham, and Irving L. Denham being personally well known to me as the persons who executed the said certificate of incorporation, and severally acknowledged the same to be their act and deed. Given under my hand and seal this 21st day of March, 1946. [SEAL] JANE DODGE, Notary Public, District of Columbia. My commission expires December 14, 1946. S. 109 NATIONAL SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA TRUST FUND BOARD STATEMENT OF MRS. WALTER BRUCE HOWE, WASHINGTON, D. C. (Witness sworn.) Mrs. HowE. I am representing the National Symphony Orchestra Association. I am a member of the board. It is a non-profit-making muscial educational corporation, organized and existing under the laws of the District of Columbia. This bill asks for no appropriation. It asks for no national charter. But it does ask for a national board to hold a trust fund for the National Symphony Orchestra Association and disburse the income of the trust fund to the National Symphony Orchestra Association. The following facts show why we ask this: We have the nucleus of a trust fund. The intention, is to expand it to some $8,000,000. The prestige and responsibility of the suggested trust fund board similar to that in the Library of Congress, under the chairmanship of the Secretary of the Treasury, with members appointed by the President of the United States, the Speaker of the House, and the President of the Senate, as provided in the bill would form the basis of confidence necessary to the collection of the permanent fund. In other civilized countries governments spread their mantles over all the arts. Here we do have a National Library and a National Art Gallery. The obvious cultural lack in this Capital has been that no symphony orchestra ever existed here, as in other capitals of the world. During the last 15 years such an orchestra has been created. in residence, filling that lack in a very distinguished way. Fifteen years gives time to create the reputation and prove the ability of an orchestra, to show the need for it in the community, and create the understanding necessary to its continuance. This orchestra is established. Over the period of 15 years unbroken service to the community, including important service during the war, the National Symphony Orchestra has proved itself in the Capital and in the country on tour as ranking among the five or six major orchestras in the United States. During that time it has had but one conductor, Hans Kindler, who created it. His reputation as a conductor and the reputation of the National Symphony are borne out by easily supplied facts covering tourage, Victor recordings, critics, competition with other major symphonies, the testimony of celebrated artists, and so on. Further, it has been a pioneer in Washington on four impressive counts: (1) The first of any orchestras visiting or resident to give Sunday concerts in Washington; (2) the first and only orchestra to give children's concerts here; (3) the first to give summer concerts; (4) the first to give concerts with low-priced tickets within the reach of the many who had never heard a symphony in the flesh. The orchestra already has a national character. It plays to a national audience, and has an inevitable importance as the only major symphony stemming from the capital of the United States. The bill asks for no active management in running the orchestra. But it does ask for a national board to hold the trust fund of the National Symphony Orchestra Association and disburse the income from that trust fund to the National Symphony Orchestra Association. There are no salaries attached to the board. There are no political implications in the bill. We present an accomplished fact in the existence of a major orchestra in the capital and we ask for recognition of established service in the creation of this board. The whole country is alive to the arts now and especially to music. And very much aware of everything that stems from the capital. The Government has put the stamp of its approval on the other arts specifically represented in Washington. This orchestra does stem from the Capital and has already carried the news to many States that a major orchestra functions there. We ask for the stamp of your approval on this music, by the creation of a board. It would be felt throughout the country as a stimulus to the arts. The facts are offered for your investigation and more information can be supplied on request. I repeat, we are not asking for an appropriation. We are not asking for a national charter. We are asking for a national trust fund board to hold our money and disburse the interest to us. We beg that you give this your unbiased and earnest consideration for the reasons stated. STATEMENT OF WALTER BRUCE HOWE, WASHINGTON 6, D. C. (Witness sworn.) Mr. HowE. I am the vice president of this corporation. I have just one suggestion to make, sir. The purpose of this bill is to form this board headed by the Secretary of the Treasury or somebody appointed to fill his place, to hold donations and gifts and to turn over the income derived from that to the corporation. The bill as drafted does not mention the incorporation or the corporate name of this organization, and I believe it should be in for the purpose of clarity. It is quite correct, I think, in its short title, "to create a board to be known as the National Symphony Orchestra Trust Fund Board." However, when the question first comes up, is on page 2, lines 1 and 2, which includes as a member ex officio of this board, which it is proposed to create, "the chairman of the board of directors of the National Symphony Orchestra of Washington" and that should read, "Chairman of the board of directors of the National Symphony Or chestra Association of Washington, D. C., organized and operated under the laws of the District of Columbia hereinafter referred to as the association." And instead of "National Symphony Ochestra," the word "association," would quite appropriately be substituted in line 21 on page 2, line 25 on page 2, and lines 19 and 20 of page 3. The House resolution is No. 450 and is identical in terms with the Senate resolution. Senator KILGORE. Have you explored the codes of the District here to see whether or not this same thing could be done under the existing code? I know it can be done in many, many States. I have not checked all of them, but all States that I have ever checked on this same thing would indicate that it could be done by a simple application to the court; that is, for the appointment for trustees. Mr. HowE. To hold as trustees? Senator KILGORE. And a board. | Mr. HowE. We have a board. I Senator KILGORE. That could be done without reference to Congress. Mr. HowE. We are already incorporated, sir, and have been since 1932. Senator KILGORE. The thing, of course, you must realize that Congress is up against is the fact that there are such things as municipal jealousies and there is some objection to the use of the word "national" with the symphony orchestra, some interpreting that that means that it is a federally operated organization which is not correct. That is the principal thing that I know of we have run into on this so far. I wish you would procure for our files a copy of the letter of Thomas L. Sidlow, of Cleveland, which we do not have now, and which, I believe, Senator Hatch has. Mrs. BRUCE. Would you spell out just a little bit more about the National Orchestra and the local jealousies? I do not mean referring to the facts or the people. Senator KILGORE. I am not calling it local jealousies, but there have been complaints registered with the Judiciary Committee to the effect that using that word, that the passage of such a bill would be creating a preferential legislation for a particular orchestra and that it misrepresents this orchestra as being "the national" organization of the Nation. That is the general tenor of it. Mrs. BRUCE. That is not totally unexpected. It would come very naturally on a proposition of this kind. Senator KILGORE. On the other hand, they say that the orchestra in the Nation's Capital should not necessarily be named the "National Orchestra" unless actually supported by national funds. That is the contention. I am just bringing that up. Mrs. BRUCE. I understand that, but I wanted to make my position clear. Senator KILGORE. I wanted to give you the source of the opposition to it. Mrs. BRUCE. A point I would like to make right here is taking the Mellon Art Gallery, for instance, the funds are certainly national funds |