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blew up in that part of Dublin called the Liberty of Meath. A powder mill, exist ing in such a place, was enough to excite suspicion; and still more the discoveries that followed the explosion. In or near the same house a large quantity of cartridges was found. A manufacture of pikes and other weapons was detected. If this unexpected discovery had made a proper impression, and if the most obvious precautions had been taken, I cannot but believe that the tragical event which followed, might have been prevented. Private letters, of considerable authority, lament and complain of the supineness of government. In the face of such facts, I cannot readily give credit to the accounts we have repeatedly heard in this House, of the general tranquillity which prevails over Ireland, and of the contented and peaceable temper of the natives. It is not natural, it is not credible, that all the causes of the opposite disposition should have been so readily forgotten, or that that disposition should have been so very soon extinguished. By fatal experience we are sure of the contrary. If it be said that the two kingdoms are united under one parliament, I ask in return, are the hearts of the Irish people united to Great Britain? If not, the union is a formality, and nothing else. The case is urgent indeed; I know of nothing that approaches to it in the magnitude of its consequences, if a real and effective course be not taken to prevent them. Nominal relief and speculative concessions will not convince the suffering majority of that people, that they really enjoy the same privileges, the same equality of government with ourselves, and that they are truly, and in fact as well as name, one nation with the English. Some days ago an hon. gentleman (Mr. Corry) proposed, and the House immediately granted, fifty thousand pounds to build churches in Ireland, and houses for the Protestant clergy to reside in. Where they have hitherto resided he did not mention. I then took the occasion to throw out an idea, which has long been revolving in my mind, and which I know prevails with several of my countrymen, and others much better acquainted with the internal state of Ireland than I am. I do not be lieve that what is yet left to make the emancipation of the Roman Catholics complete, is much regarded by the majority of that persuasion. The benefit of what remains to be done would reach but

to a few. The condition of the rest would be very little mended by total emancipation, unless it were accompanied, as it ought to be, by other concessions. One of the principal grievances of the Roman Catholics, and heavy it is indeed on all ranks of that part of the Irish people, from him, who has something like a house and cloaths to cover him, to the naked wretch, who pines and starves with a family of beggars in a mud cottage, is the cruelty and oppression of forcing them to pay double tithes for the support of two ecclesiastical establishments. The united legislature of the empire has it now in its power to give that essential relief, which the justice of the case demands, but which it would have been in vain to expect from an Irish parliament. I submit the measure, for its reason and its prudence, to the consideration of his majesty's ministers. I urge it on their attention, for its indispensable necessity. On the subject of Ireland I shall venture to offer you one salutary suggestion more, and with that I shall conclude. In all human dealing, particularly in acts of justice or benevolence, the form and the manner are as effective as the substance. The benefit is doubled, when it comes through a favourite channel. If the French are determined to attempt an invasion, their object, with any rational prospect of success, must be Ireland. Your military force in that country may be great; but there is a moral power of defence and security, which armies cannot give you. You have it within your reach, if you are wise enough to make use of it. The service to be done points out the person to be employed. To recover the affections of Ireland, there does not exist, the world does not furnish so powerful an instrument as the illustrious prince, to whose name and character I have alluded. That any heart, which he wishes to win, should resist him- I do not believe it possible. If with those personal qualifications, so eminently possessed by him, and so peculiarly suited to the occasion, he were allowed to carry with him the justice, or, if you will, the mercy of the legislature to the Catholics of that unhappy country, from that moment the union would be realised. The hearts of the people would gather round him. Alienation and despair would be converted into affection, and the whole power of the country be devoted to its defence.

Sir F. Burdett, alluding to an expres

Debate on Mr. Sheridan's Motion

sion of col. Craufurd's, that the prince of
Wales had offered his services, and that
his offer had been rejected, stated his re-
gret that such rejection should have oc-
curred; as at such a period as the present,
the character of his royal highness would
furnish a tower of strength to the country.
The hon. baronet recommended the ap-
pointment of a military commission, and
concluded with complaining of the gene-
ral misrepresentations of his sentiments.
Sir W. Erskine approved of the idea of
a military commission.

Mr. Fox moved an amendment, in sup-
port of which he stated, that the greatest
abilities on earth, even those of the duke
of Marlborough, would not be sufficient
for the extent of the duties to which a
commander in chief's attention must ne-
cessarily be directed at the present crisis.
The words of his amendment were," That
an address be presented to his majesty,
praying that he would be graciously
pleased to appoint a military council, con-
sisting of general officers, and such others
as to his majesty should seem fit, for the
purpose of giving their advice when
called upon by his majesty respecting the
defence of the country, and of being con-
sulted occasionally, or from day to day, if
necessary, by the commander in chief, and
his majesty's ministers upon that important
subject." He could not conceive why the
services of the heir apparent had been re-
fused. Was his royal highness too old?
Was he too young? Was he made a
colonel twenty-two years ago, by way of
douceur, as a little pecuniary aid? Was he
not known to be in the very prime of life,
at the very period when man was capable
of the utmost energy? The country, he
added, had a right to expect some expla-
nation upon this subject.

Mr. Tyrwhitt, of the prince's household, said:-An illustrious personage, in whose family I have the honour to be placed, having been so directly alluded to, I can no longer be silent. The Prince, from the very commencement of the war, has manifested an anxious wish to be placed in any military situation to which his majesty might be pleased to call him; which wish has been made known to his majesty's ministers. If the services of the illustrious personage alluded to have been rejected, I have proof that the fault does not lie at his door.

Mr. Barham strongly urged the propriety of giving a military command to the heir apparent.

[1692 No man is more ready to bear attestation The Chancellor of the Exchequer said: character of the illustrious personage to the feelings so worthy of the rank and alluded to than I am. But having made this declaration, I must here pause, and declare, that nothing short of the commands of the king shall compel me to say one word more upon the subject.

Mr. Windham strongly enforced the at all events the Prince should have a necessity of a council of war, and thought command.

motion, and maintained that there was a General Maitland spoke against the council of war to all intents and purposes now existing.

spiritedly observed: the Prince of Wales Mr. Calcraft was for the council. He has been a colonel in the army from the year 1782; his brother is a field marshal and commander in chief; three younger brothers are lieutenant-generals; and you leave the heir apparent to the monarchy to fight for that crown which he is one day to wear, as a colonel of a regiment, under the command of a major-general, his own equerry.

motion;
Colonel Craufurd having withdrawn his
orders of the day being also withdrawn,
and the motion for the other
the House divided on Mr. Fox's mo-
tion:

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General Maitland.

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Vote of Thanks to the Volunteers.] Aug. Debate on Mr. Sheridan's Motion for a 10. Mr. Sheridan rose to make his promised motion relative to the Volunteers. He said, it was of a nature which he flattered himself would meet the approbation of every man in the House: and he trusted that whatever zeal of opposition had been manifested on other occasions, there might at least be one cordial day before their separation-one day in which every consideration was lost sight of but devotion to the cause of our common country. In bringing forward the motion, more strictly was the duty of the servants he had no wish to interfere with what of the crown; but he could not but think that a motion such as he had to propose.

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disposable for foreign service, every man was to be seen in his uniform. At that period, every member of the Irish House of Commons appeared in the dress of his appropriate association; and the gallery exhibited an equally military appearance. The public officers of state imitated the example, and even the grave judges on the bench, under his professional gown, exhibited a uniform. He could not but think that the adoption of a similar practice would be productive of the most beneficial effects. Even if it had no other effect but to point out those who were lukewarm and disaffected, it might be productive of infinite advantage. As to the spot where volunteer associations were to be trained, the places allotted for this purpose should, in the first instance, be as secluded as possible. He needed not to remind the House that there were many individuals who would much more cheerfully expose themselves to the shot of the enemy than encounter the derision of motley spectators. Before he sat down, he begged leave to advert to some other considerations connected with the subject immediately before the House. No man had seen with greater pleasure than he had, the patriotic donations of which the gentlemen at Lloyd's coffee-house had set so illustrious an example. He confessed that liberal as the subscription already was, it was with surprise that he still observed the absence of several classes of the community which he expected to have seen the first on the list. He had no wish to say any thing harsh respecting the noble and honourable persons of whom those classes were composed. Though they had not yet come forward with their contributions, he had no doubt that they would not be deficient in devotion to their country at this trying moment, and that though they had not taken the lead, they would not show themselves deficient in generosity in so sacred a cause.

came with peculiar propriety from an in-
dividual who appeared in that House as a
volunteer in the cause of this country.
Before he proceeded, he wished it to be
distinctly understood that his motion was
intended to include every description of
individuals whose services were voluntarily
offered at this difficult and trying crisis.
It would include volunteer corps, corps
of yeomanry, and corps which were raised
by patriotic gentlemen, and accepted by
government. There were one or two
points on which he wished to say a very
few words. At present there existed
some degree of doubt respecting the
proper construction of the clauses of the
bill for the general defence of the coun-
try; and also of the bill by which some
ambiguities were meant to be removed. It
was not sufficiently understood how far a
voluntary offer to enter into a corps, pre-
viously accepted by his majesty, would
exempt the individuals making this offer
from the compulsory operation of the
bills to which he had just now referred.
It was the clear spirit of the act, that
when any individual entered into a corps
of the nature which he had described, he
was henceforth freed from the operation of
all the compulsory clauses of the act.
The next point on which he wished to
make a few observations was, the mode
in which many volunteer associations
conducted their cloathing. It could not
have escaped notice that many thousand
individuals, whose loyalty was undoubted,
were prevented from entering into volun-
teer associations, from the heavy expense
to which a gaudy fashionable dress would
them. If the cloathing were more
cheap, thousands whom no considera-
tion but that which he had mentioned now
deterred, would flock to the standard of
loyalty. He could not but think that
gentlemen in affluent circumstances would
do themselves infinite honour by appear-
ing in the plainest dress possible. It was
not idle pomp or tawdry magnificence
which was to entitle members of a volun-
teer association to the confidence of their
country. In this trying crisis we were
to look for salvation to fortitude, to he-
roism, to contempt of death. He re-
joiced to find that a military disposition
pervaded the land, and he wished that
the effect might be visible in a general
military appearance in the country. In
Ireland, when the system of volunteers,
carried to an extraordinary pitch, left a
greater proportion of the regular troops

expose

When he looked to the amount of the fund at this moment, and when he considered how much greater it might become by the contributions of those classes to which he had referred, he could not help thinking that it might admit of a Though more extended application. originally designed solely to afford aid to the wives and relatives of those who perished while fighting their country's battles, it did appear to him that so large a fund, instead of remaining unapplied, might, to a certain extent, be employed

in contributing to the direct service of the country. Rewards might be offered to those who were willing to volunteer the performance of important national services, and who might be deterred merely by the consideration that in their absence their families would remain without a provision. He would allude to another source of assistance; he meant the patriotic contributions of our fair country women. In a contest involving the preservation of all the charities and all the endearments of domestic life, he could not believe that they would be backward in patriotism. To their other charms he was confident they would add the charm of love to their country and their homes. -The hon. gentleman then proceeded to advert to the description of the force, to the individuals composing which his vote of thanks would be addressed. He was no military man, and professed no power to give the House information on the subject. In the course of many discussions which had lately taken place, it had however frequently occurred to him, that many of these details might have been well spared, whether proceeding from military or unmilitary members of the House. He must, in the face of authorities deservedly high in a military point of view, say, that, as a constitutional member of parliament, he thought the force which was now formed for the defence of the country one in which he was warranted in placing the amplest confidence. Military men were too apt to view every object with what they were pleased to call a military eye; but, with all their minuteness of observation, they were very apt to overlook one little fortress, which he should never cease to think of the highest importance, and that was the fortress of the constitution. If he were asked, whether he did not think a hundred thousand regular troops a more effectual body for the defence of the country than an equal number of militia, volunteers, and yeomanry, he certainly could have no difficulty in giving his answer. Undoubtedly, for every military purpose, such a regular force was superior. He would maintain, however, that in addition to a regular army of a certain magnitude, a force, consisting of militia, volunteers, and yeomanry, was a force more suited to the habits, the circumstances, the constitutional liberties of this country. In saying this he did not speak of an army for the purpose of carrying on a

continental war, but a force such as it behoved us to keep up when the necessity of cultivating military habits was more imperiously imposed on us by the ambition of a foreign enemy, whom nothing could satisfy short of our destruction. He liked the force the better, because it was of a diversified character. In the first instance the preference was given to the regular troops; the militia, the volunteer corps, and the yeomanry succeeded in their claims to distinction. There was in in such a force a connexion which must ever make it formidable to a foreign enemy. There was in its compositions a facility for separation, which, in a constitutional view, he should always regard with satisfaction. Great standing armies, however disciplined and powerful, were not to be implicitly trusted. He might refer to numerous examples in proof of this position. A most striking instance occurred in the army of France. Never was there an army better disciplined, more brave, or apparently more dependent on the throne; but that very army thus constituted, and on which every possible reliance was placed, in the course of a very few hours suffered the monarchy to be overturned, and the revolution to triumph. In making this allusion, it was the farthest in the world from his intention to impeach the loyalty of our regular army. On the contrary, he believed that no body of men were ever animated with truer or more affectionate attachment to their sovereign. He admired, however, the present constitution of our military force, as being exempted from the inconveniences and the evils which attached, to a certain degree, to all standing, exclusive, permanent armies. By such a constitution, the strength and efficiency of the whole was confirmed and consolidated. He liked the present attitude of the country, whether we looked forward to the continuance of war, or to the conclusion of peace.-On the subject of peace he should just say one word. He should be the ready advocate of peace, if it could be obtained on terms consistent with the national honour and safety. This, however, he would distinctly say, and he was sure that he spoke the language of his majesty's ministers when he made the declaration, that no peace could be formed, no negotiation could be listened to, no offer for negotiation could be accepted, while there was a hostile army in any part of the united empire. If he had

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manry corps of the United Kingdom, for the zeal and promptitude with which, at a crisis the most momentous to their country, they have associated for its defence." General Gascoyne hoped that the motion would be unanimously adopted. thought, now that our regular army was so powerfully supported by the militia, and 300,000 volunteers, we should remove the seat of war out of our own dominions, and learn to threaten the threatener: we ought no longer to confine ourselves merely to defensive operations.

supposed it possible for ministers to have entertained contrary sentiments, he should have felt it his duty to have brought forward a distinct proposition, that the minister who should listen to so disgraceful a proposition, would deserve to be impeached, and to lose his head as the punishment of his infamy. He stated it distinctly, therefore, as what he conceived was the unalterable resolution of ministers, that no proposal for peace should be entertained, while a single French soldier had a footing on British ground. [This sentiment was universally applauded.]— The hon. gentleman, after this patriotic effusion, went on to recommend unanimity on this interesting occasion. He did not call on gentlemen to give up their opinions. He did not wish by any means to dictate to them the course of political conduct which they were to pursue. Within the walls of that House every man had a fair right fully and unequivocally to declare his opinions on public affairs. He might be permitted, however, to entreat of gentlemen, that as the period of their separation was now at hand, they would not utter such sentiments out of doors; that they would not resort to any measures which could damp the increasing ardour and energy of the country; that they would not lend the sanction of their names to sentiments which, coming from unauthorized sources, had never been received with any portion of favour. All that he asked of them was, to suspend their political animosities for a moment; not to represent the servants of the crown as weak and inefficient, at a moment when confidence in their exertions was so necessary to the salvation of the country; not to waste that time, and those talents in party spirit and intrigue, which might be so much more worthily employed in performing the sublime and animated duties of patriotism. This was a moment which called on every honest man to unite heart and hand in support of all that is dear to us as a great and free people, against the greatest danger with which we were ever threatened. Let but this small sacrifice be made to patriotism, and when they once more assembled in that House, they might resume their favourite pursuits, under the pleasing consciousness, that they had contributed their efforts to the general safety. The hon. gentleman then moved, "That the Thanks of this House be given to the several Volunteer and Yeo[VOL. XXXVI.]

Mr. Windham wished it were in his power to gratify the hon. mover; but while the hon. gentleman deprecated discussion, he threw out so many things to provoke it, that it was impossible his wish could be complied with. If the hon. gentleman imagined he was going to oppose the vote, he was mistaken. It was among the fancies of the hon. gentleman that he had spoken with disparagement of the militia and the volunteer corps. With respect to the volunteer corps, he had not a doubt of their zeal and spirit; and he was satisfied that in the day of trial they would serve their country in a way becoming Englishmen. He had said nothing to give offence to the militia. The whole amount of what he had said was, that with all the zeal and spirit which he always allowed them, they did not possess those qualities of soldiers which it was impossible to possess without having been in action. With respect to the motion, it was one to which a man was induced to give his assent, because he could not dissent without disapproving. He had no objection to a vote of thanks. It was here in some instances, as in public places, where one joined in the applause, because he could make no other noise which would not have the effect of censure. But, if he were to speak as a volunteer, he should say, "For God's sake, keep your thanks till we have done something to deserve them." It should be considered, that the volunteer corps were but just formed, and that many had chosen volunteer service to avoid compulsory service. It should be recollected, that at other times we had had volunteers, who had come forward without any influence or compulsion, and that no thought was entertained of bestowing on them, in the first instance, a vote like that now proposed. All that the House of Commons had to give to the most distinguished services by sea and land was its thanks; and when volunteer [5 Q]

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