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existed previously to the war? We were | doubtless, in the most strenuous manner, not bound to interfere on account of any aggression by other powers, or of any internal commotions in the state. If France attempted the dismemberment of Turkey, it was a breach of faith, it was a violation of treaty, and afforded a good ground for a declaration of war on the part of England. Was not the same degree of reliance to be placed upon the honour of the French, as of every other government? The learned doctor said, No; and averred, that French perfidy was seen in the chief consul having, since the signature of the preliminaries with England, ratified a treaty with Portugal, which, according to the assurance of the noble secretary of state, he had agreed to cancel. But to him the explanation of the noble secretary was perfectly satisfactory, and thoroughly vindicated Buonaparté against the charge of infidelity to his engagements. The learned doctor would do well to wait until an official copy of the treaty in question could be produced, instead of indulging himself in rash and ill-grounded invective. -Another objection made to the preliminaries by the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Windham) and the learned doctor was, that no provision was introduced for the security of the royalists, who had joined our standard, and co-operated with us to effect the restoration of monarchical government. General Menou, it was said, had bargained, in the capitulation of Alexandria, for the security of all persons who had taken up arms against their own government, and had aided his attempt to separate Egypt from the Turkish empire; but would gentlemen therefore say, that England, in offering a projet of peace to France, should have insisted upon a positive stipulation, that safe return and adequate provision should be granted to all those who had used every endeavour to overturn the existing government in that country? There existed no analogy between the two cases. Was any such article inserted in the projet at Lisle? Certainly not. Was any such provision to be found in the treaty with our American colonies? Certainly not. For his part, he greatly doubted whether France would have consented to treat at all, if the preliminaries had contained a condition on the part of his majesty in behalf of those whom the French government, whose legitimacy we had now acknowledged, regarded in no other light than rebels. His majesty's ministers had

recommended those unfortunate royalists to the protection and humanity of the first consul. What more could they have done? It was all which, consistently with propriety, could have been brought forward, and all which they promised in the proclamation quoted by the learned doctor. This proclamation from the king, in the early part of the war, invited such as were discontented with the existing order of things in France, to join the British standard, and held out to them an assurance of protection, but what degree of protection did it pledge? It stated that every support should be given to them "which the nature of the case would admit." How then had his majesty's government broken faith with the French royalists? He was ready to believe, without calling upon them for any declaration whatever, that they had urged their pitiable condition with the greatest force; and that they would still continue to show the greatest possible attention to their interests. Of the peace itself, he was free to avow, that it commanded his full and unqualified approbation. He would state the principle upon which he gave his vote in favour of the preliminaries? It was, that such a peace was far preferable to the continuance of the war, and that the chance of obtaining an island or two was not worth the blood and treasure which would necessarily be expended in another campaign. He was a stranger to those gloomy appre hensions, as to the insecurity of this peace, which were entertained by some. energies of the British nation had been frequently exhibited during the war; and he was at a loss to discover why our dominions, being increased so considerably, we should be less equal to the defence of our territories in another than in the past contest. Instead of suffering a low and depressed state of spirits, his mind exulted with joy. He gave credit to ministers for having concluded the best peace, which the circumstances of the country would allow. He was convinced that they had acted from the purest motives. Than the right hon. gentleman at the head of his majesty's councils, whom he was proud to call his tried and faithful friend, from earliest youth (the chancellor of the exchequer), a man of more private integrity and public virtue did not exist. With the greatest pleasure he gave his assent to the preliminaries; and

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if the future conduct of ministers were conformable to the specimen they had now given-if the pacific system should appear to prevail in all their councilsand if they did not continue the existing encroachments upon the constitution beyond the date of their expiration, they should have his unbounded confidence, and cordial support.

Mr. Baker said, that if the terms of the peace were not so good as he could have wished, he was convinced that it was not the fault of ministers, who, he was sure, had done every thing in their power to obtain the best possible terms for the country. The great question for the House to decide was, whether the terms of the peace were adequate to our situation, considering it with relation to the situation of France? and upon the best consideration he was able to give the subject, he was inclined to think they were. It had been said that we had now to contend against the power, and not against the principles of France. To this proposition he could not accede; because, in fact, we were contending against power founded upon those very principles. He had been very much struck with an observation which had been made by an hon. gentleman, that France, in the whole of this transaction, had shown nothing like any principles of conciliation. She retained every one of those possessions which she had acquired, by the exercise of those principles against which it was now supposed we had no longer to contend. It was unnecessary for him, in supporting this argument, to go over all the arguments that could be adduced upon the subject. He need not state the cases of Holland, Flanders, &c. Her conduct with regard to Flanders showed that she set all treaties at defiance when they interfered with her projects; and she now retained Flanders, which she had so acquired, to the great danger of this country. There was another part of the conduct of France which was revolted at in the negotiations of Paris and Lisle, but which seemed to have been admitted in this, viz. that whatever they acquired in the war, and incorporated with their dominions, became so absolutely annexed to their dominions, that they would not suffer them to become the subject of negotiation. The case of Belgium and of Savoy proved this assertion. This consideration seemed to have been overlooked in the present treaty. Besides, France

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had never, either in form or in substance, repealed the famous decree of the 19th November, 1792; nay, she had not only given it up, but she had invariably acted upon it. Another subject which he thought well worth attention was, the situation of St. Domingo. It was the intention, he understood, of France, to send out a very large force to that island, and they were not to be sent out in the ordinary way, in transports, but in ships of the line. The consequence of this would be, that France would have a very large force in the West Indies, and we must either keep an equal force or our possessions there would be at the mercy of France in case of a rupture with her. It would therefore, in his opinion, be necessary for us to keep up a large force. He then alluded to some articles which had appeared in the public papers, which were represented as secret articles of this treaty; they stated, that we were to guarantee the king of Etruria, &c. He merely referred to them as having seen them in the newspapers, without knowing whether they were authentic or not. Upon the whole, however, he decidedly approved of the peace; but at the same time he thought we ought to adopt every precautionary measure that we could, without exciting the suspicions of France.

Mr. Dawson rose to pay his tribute to those ministers who had concluded a peace which appeared to him to meet universal approbation. He was in Ireland when the news of the peace arrived, and he did not meet a man who was well affected to the constitution, who did not rejoice at it. With regard to the terms, he had such an opinion of the present administration, that he was convinced they were as good as could be obtained.

Mr. W. Wynn said, that after so many gentleman had so fully and so ably spoken upon this subject, he certainly was unable to add any thing new upon it, but he could not give a silent vote. He could not look upon the peace with the same sentiments of satisfaction as many gentlemen had done, because he thought it was big with danger to the country.

Colonel Wood said, that, to form a correct judgment on the subject, we must consider not merely the relative situations of France and England, but of those countries in respect to other powers of Europe. France he considered as invulnerable to any attack from England, for the purpose of abridging her continen

tal power; but he believed few gentlemen of this country. That island, from its considered every part of the united king- situation, fortifications, and harbour, was dom, as well as of our extensive colonies, invaluable to this country; and so long as as equally secure from France. Un- we held possession of it, France could doubtedly, by blockading her ports, and never look towards Egypt and Syria as destroying her trade, France might have the road to molest us in India. The been induced, within some indefinite Levant trade, although at present incontime, to accede to better terms than the siderable, was, he believed, chiefly to be present, but the dangers and evils likely attributed to the most unwise monopoly to arise from lengthening the contest, no granted to the Turkey company, who do terms could, in his mind, compensate for. not themselves use it, yet by their charter The addition of forty millions a year to precluded others from benefiting. As to national debt, exclusive of keeping many the West India islands, we had still as hundred thousands of our most valuable many of them as could be for the interest subjects idle, who could be employed in of the country; and, unless those we had agriculture, manufactures, and the im- could be retained at a less expense of provement of the country; considering blood and treasure, we had better be the present state of our finances, as well without them. The Cape of Good Hope, as the burthens of the people, were undoubtedly, should France re-establish weighty reasons with ministers for con- her marine, might be of consequence; cluding the present peace. But there but under the present circumstances he were many other cogent reasons, in the had doubts. Ceylon was of infinite impresent state of Europe, which justified portance, on account of its harbour; as them in putting an end to so ruinous a was the Island of Trinidad, in the West contest. Gentleman cannot have so soon lndies, for the same reason. Under all forgotten the confederacy of the northern circumstances, he felt infinite obligations powers to destroy the most important to ministers for putting an end to the interests of this country; and, although war; and particularly to his right hon. the contest is for the present at an end, friend the present minister, who, in an may we not reasonably conjecture that hour of difficulty and danger, charged Denmark and Sweden are not still so well himself with the helm of the state, and disposed towards us, as their own real had for the present brought her safely interests ought to have led them to be? into port. Russia, indeed, was now governed by a wise and just prince; yet, who would stake the security of their country upon the life of an individual? What reliance could be had upon the crooked policy of Prussia? and Austria, had she even the ability, has she still the inclination to renew the contest? Could we expect from Turkey any important assistance, at a time when she can scarcely prevent her own tottering empire from falling to pieces? Under these untoward circumstances, was England to wage war against France, for the object of reducing her continental power, at the time that these powers upon the continent most interested had themselves confirmed it? Such conduct would have been more wild than the adventures of Don Quixote. No person more regretted than he did the overgrown power of France; but no one could foresee but that very power, which was at present so formidable, might contain in it the seeds of its own dissolution. In regard to the conquests which were to be restored, excepting Malta, none appeared to him to be very material to the interests

Mr. Ellison repelled the idea, that the country was in a state of humiliation; on the contrary, he thought her recent conduct peculiarly glorious to her. She was true to her allies, and adequately asserted her own honour and interests. thanked ministers for what they had done. The peace, he trusted, would unite every heart and hand in the country in support of its government.

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Mr. Nicholls was confident that the peace would prove safe with respect to this country in every point of view. He expressed his conviction of the sincerity of the French government. Much seemed to be apprehended from France becoming a commercial nation; that her character in that respect would alter, he wished. He would rather see her attention turned to her commerce and colonies, than her power employed in hostile or destructive projects. In this view he wished she might regain the entire possession of St. Domingo, and he wished it with a view to the safety of our own West India Islands, and of Jamaica in particular; for in the present situation of St. Domingo, that

invaluable island could not be safe. He | by what had fallen from the hon. gentlealso regarded the peace with satisfaction man who spoke last, he understood, that as the basis of reciprocal commercial those hon. gentlemen who so highly disbenefits, and of the renewal of the com- approved of the peace, were countenanced mercial treaty with France. He firmly in that disapprobation by the feelings and believed that the present treaty was made opinions of the disaffected; and that so in the true spirit of reconciliation, and he far as their feelings were hurt at the peace, gave ministers full credit for their conduct those feelings (unexpectedly no doubt by in procuring it for the country. At the them) were in unison with those of the same time, he was induced to commend United Irish. His right hon. friend who the moderation displayed by Buonaparté, had led the debate that evening, seemed particularly with respect to Austria, to think that peace could not be sincerely which, he thought, was highly honoura- made on both sides, or firmly established ble to him. If riches were the object of with France, until, not only the governthe French, they, who were an enlightened ment and political principles of France and wise people, well knew that they were were changed, but even the morals and not to be acquired by the means of plun- manners of her people were radically der and pillage. Such a line of conduct reformed. With respect to these meanever made a nation rich, or Algiers sures, he should observe, that an answer would be one of the richest countries in to them all was comprised in a question the world. No, the French were well asked by that hon. gentleman himself:aware, that it was alone by habits of "Are we never to be at Peace?" He peace and industry that riches were to be would answer-" Yes ;" and at the same acquired, and by commercial pursuits, time would say, that he hoped and trusted, which it was obvious could alone be suc- that, upon the principles cited from his cessfully cultivated in the interval of peace. right hon. friend, the government or the Mr. Babington spoke in favour of the parliament of Great Britain would never peace, and adverted to the article between be influenced to act. He had the highFrance and England, respecting the est respect for the character of his right guarantee of integrity to the Turkish hon. friend. He well knew the uprightterritories, which principle he treated as ness and firmness of his principles, and highly impolitic and dangerous. He en- the ardour and sincerity of his patriotism. tertained a jealousy with respect to guaran- His regret at differing from him in points tees in general, though he was aware that of such incalculable importance was, circumstances might arise which might therefore, the more considerable. render such measures expedient. He right hon. friend had seemed to start at considered Russia and Austria as the the bare idea of an end to our resources: natural allies of this country, and as form- With respect to these, he certainly could ing the most efficacious reciprocal checks not say they were inexhaustible; yet, upon France. God be thanked, the national resources were far from being in that situation which some gentlemen seemed to consider them; and he would observe in the contemplation of their being farther removed from such a state, that he rejoiced that the sovereign had yielded to the advice of his confidential servants, in consenting to the preliminaries of peace. With respect to what had been said, in a comparative view, in regard to the negotiations at Lisle, he contended, that, in the way of argument, those who defended the preliminaries had a right to put the case as they had done; and that the House, which approved of the negotiation at Lisle, could not, in consistency or justice, refuse their approbation in this instance. It had been said, that the continental power of France was not abridged, and that Britain was confessedly unable to

Mr. R. Thornton approved of the peace, for which he thought ministers deserved the thanks and gratitude of the country: it was the more acceptable, because unexpected by the great body of the people; and he had reason to think ministers had obtained the most favour able terms that could be had. France might be increased in bulk; but she was not proportionally so in real strength and muscle. Peace was desirable at almost any rate.

Mr. G. Ogle observed, that there was not a loyal man in Ireland who did not receive the tidings of the peace with joy and satisfaction; and, on the contrary, there was not a rebel, or a disaffected individual, who did not receive it with disapprobation and regret.

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contest that power. It was never meant to say, that the power of Great Britain was not such, that, if properly used, it might, with every desirable effect be placed in the scale opposite to that of France; in this idea, he did not mean hostilely opposed, but in the way of comparison of their political power and influence. He must revolt at the idea, that, because France had made considerable acquisitions, England could not raise its head-far from it; and in proof of this he had only to desire those who doubted, to look at the state of our army and navy, and consider their achievements-to contemplate our national commerce, resources, and wealth-and, above all, our inestimable constitution. He should not omit, in a statement of this kind, the extent of our dominions and possessions, as well at home as broad: added to this, let the national character of both countries be thrown into the scale of consideration, and then compare the whole with all that France possessed, and he had no hesitation in putting the question, let any wise and candid man lay his hand upon his heart and say, on which side lay the advantage?

The Address was then agreed to, and ordered to be presented to his majesty by the whole House.

The King's Answer to the Commons Address.] To the Address of the Commons his Majesty returned this Answer:

"Gentlemen; I return you my thanks for this loyal and dutiful Address. The sentiments which you have expressed upon this important occasion are highly satisfactory to me, and calculated to produce the happiest effects."

Debate in the Lords on the Preliminaries of Peace with France.] Nov. 3. The order of the day being read, the Preliminary Articles of Peace were read at length by the clerk. After which,

The Earl of Romney rose and said: My lords; we have terminated a war, the most momentous in which Britain has ever been engaged; a war productive of the heaviest burthens, though patriotically and loyally borne. It was a war of necessity, for the defence of our allies and for the preservation of our religion, law and social order; and as it was on our part necessary, so, where we only were concerned, has it been accompanied by the most signal successes. Glorious

as that war was in which the immortal Chatham presided at the helm of affairs, the present is equally splendid; our fleets have been victorious to a greater extent than even in the Seven Years war: they have crushed the navy, and annihilated the commerce of our enemy: the whole of maritime Europe, jealous of our naval power, combined to attempt its humiliation; they found all vain endeavours recoil on themselves. Egypt has witnessed the glorious exertions of the British troops. In that country we had to contend with an army much more numerous than our own, inured to the climate, and commanded by an able and skilful general. They were the chosen troops of France, who had fought under the conqueror of Italy in all his triumphant campaigns: and with reason had styled themselves the Invincible Legion; for invincible they were till they encountered British soldiers. In every other enterprize where Britons only were concerned, we succeeded. Success is the season for concluding peace. It is not wise nor politic to be, even in victory, pertinacious beyond the object of the contest, or to insist on terms more advantageous than those for which we originally fought. We have secured our religion, our laws, our constitution, our property, and our independence. The treaty before the House secured all the important objects for which the war had been carried on. The settlements of Ceylon and Trinidad, which we have retained, are of considerable importance. In India we have gained signal victories. We have conquered Mysore, and entirely destroyed the principal friend of France, who, with his father Hyder Ally, has been always forming projects hostile to England. We have also procured restitution to the allies who continued to adhere to us. We had driven from the Turkish dominions an enemy who had seized the most valuable part of the Sultan's territories, and the granary of his metropolis. To our allies, during the war, we behaved with magnanimous liberality. When fidelity to us was no longer beneficial to themselves, we released them from their engagements. France had, no doubt, obtained additions to her territories, far surpassing any conquests that Louis 14th had conceived possible. But the conquests of France were not the fault of Britain. We could not prevent its gigantic effort on the continent. Were we to persevere in a hopeless contest?

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