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Mr. ROBERTSON. You said with $200,000,000 additional you could do certain things but with $300,000,000 you could add other units; is that correct? General Pick. Yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Any further questions, Mr. Robertson? Mr. ROBERTSON. No. The CHAIRMAN. Any questions by Mr. Allen? Mr. ALLEN. No questions. The CHAIRMAN. Any questions by Mr. Elliott? Mr. ELLIOTT. Are there any irrigation benefits resulting from your dams or reservoirs ?
General Pick. Yes, sir. There will be water provided in the Garrison Reservoir for irrigation. There will be water provided in the Harlan County Reservoir for irrigation. Plans are complete to provide storage of water in the Cherry Creek Reservoir for irrigation. We have a plan that we are working out with the Bureau of Reclamation now about how we might store irrigation water in the Kanopolis Reservoir.
Mr. ELLIOTT. All of those are subject to rules and regulations prescribed in the 1944 Flood Control Act? General PICK. Yes, sir.
Mr. ELLIOTT. With regard to the levees that you mentioned, are those for agricultural purposes?
General Pick. Yes, sir; those are the levees on the main stream, and they will protect large agricultural areas as well as numerous towns.
Mr. ELLIOTT. Then, the benefits from those levees would also apply to the 1944 Flood Control Act, the irrigation benefits?
General Pick. I do not exactly understand your question. Mr. ELLIOTT. You are spending that money, as I understand it, for levee construction for benefit of agriculture ?
General Pick. Yes, sir, the levees protect agricultural land.
Mr. ELLIOTT. That would be subject to the provisions of the 1944 Flood Control Act, for irrigation purposes? General Pick. I do not quite understand your question. The CHAIRMAN. Is that an arid region? General Pick. I was going to say there was no irrigation in connection with the levee system.
Mr. ELLIOTT. These are river levees? General Pick. Yes, sir. You see, there is no irrigation below Sioux City on the main stream, because the rainfall down there is sufficient to grow crops.
The CHAIRMAN. Any further questions, Mr. Elliott? Mr. ELLIOTT. No further questions. The CHAIRMAN. Any questions by Mr. Morgan? Mr. MORGAN. The additional funds you will ask for, will that include the Hickory Dam?
General Pick. No, sir. The Hickory Dam is not authorized at present. The Hickory Dam is included in the report which has just been completed, and it is in the hands of the local authorities, in
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cluding the governor, for consideration. That project is not before the committee and it has not been authorized.
The CHAIRMAN. I can understand why you asked the question.
Mr. SCHWABE. General Pick, in outlining your plans for next year and considering these authorizations, and considering the possible effects of inflation, such as increased labor costs, construction cost, did you take into account that phase of it? Are you worried about that very much?
General Pick. No, sir. It is very interesting, I think, to note that most of our flood-control projects do not require a lot of manufactured materials. They are mostly earth materials which can be found readily. We do not require a lot of fabricated materials.
Mr. SCHWABE. For instance, in the construction of the Osceola Reservoir, it would probably not cost any more next year than you counted on a year or so ago? General Pick. We hope not. The CHAIRMAN. Any further questions? Mr. ALLEN. General, nothing was said about these dams, multiplepurpose dams. Do you figure on any power?
General Pick. Yes, sir.
Mr. ALLEN. In other words, they are primarily for flood-control purposes?
General Pick. Flood control, irrigation, and navigation.
The CHAIRMAN. We are delighted to have had your statement, General Pick. You have covered the situation fully. I may say, evidently, you have in mind that if you do not ask for it you will probably not receive it. We are glad to have your request for additional authorizations.
General Crawford, is there any other matter you would like to bring to the committee's attention? General CRAWFORD. No, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Colonel Herb? Colonel HERB. No, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. At this time we will be glad to have Mr. Warne of the Bureau of Reclamation. Mr. Warne, before you begin, I want to ask General Pick this question, with your permission.
General Pick, in the Missouri Basin is there anything in the work that is being done by the Corps of Engineers that presents or interferes with the soil-conservation work being done by them or is there coordination between the Corps of Engineers and the Department of Agriculture respecting the soil-conservation work?
General Pick. None of our work will in any way interfere with the soil-conservation program. We are working very closely with
that if you de situation fully. Your statement,
the Department of Agriculture representatives in the area in their program of soil conservation. We have worked out one project which will come before your committee at a later date that is going to be a combination project. The Army engineers will do part of it and the Soil Conservation people will do the other part of it as a combination flood-control and watershed treatment project.
The CHAIRMAN. What you say with respect to soil erosion and soil conservation and erosion retardation applies to any reforesting that may be done by the Forest Department? General Pick. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. So the people in the Missouri Valley, under the soil-conservation and the foresty programs of the Government, and under appropriations that are being made, are getting relief comparable to that extended to other sections of the country? General Pick. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. And the matter of construction and operation under the Forest Service and Soil Conservation is coordinated with your work?
General Pick. Yes, sir; including all the agencies of the Government operating in there, Fish and Wildlife; REA; National Park Service, and all of them. We are coordinating all of our work with all other governmental agencies in the field and with the State and local bodies.
The CHAIRMAN. So there is not only coordination but there is correlation and cooperation and any other word that begins with “co" between you and the other agencies? General Pick. Yes, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. My point is that there is no occasion for an authority over all the valley in order to provide the people in that valley the benfits they are entitled to.
STATEMENT OF HARRY TRUSTIN, CITY COMMISSIONER,
OMAHA, NEBR. Mr. TRUSTIN. Mr. Chairman and members of the Flood Control Committee, my statement today will be brief, because my views and those of the city of Omaha have been brought before the appropriate committees of Congress, again and again, as the comprehensive program for the Missouri River Basin has progressed in legislation toward the goal for which we, in the valley, have hoped and petitioned for many years.
As a city commissioner, I speak for Omaha in stating that our interests are not purely local. Through many intercity and interstate meetings held over the past 3 years we have become familiar with the needs of our neighbors in the valley—and we have come to know the water problems of all 10 States of the basin.
The comprehensive program developed by the Army engineers and the Bureau of Reclamation-cooperating with all other agencies interested in land and water improvement-has been subjected to our closest scrutiny and examination. It has our fullest, most enthusiastic support, and may I express our appreciation to the Congress for approval of the program, and for the impetus given it through the
1946 deficiency bill appropriations and the new appropriation bill for 1947.
Work has already been initiated this year on program projects. That is the most encouraging news ever to come to our valley in the memory of those who have faced and fought floods, year after year, in the lower basin; or struggled to survive through years of drought in the upper basin. Yet, we know it is only a start. We know that the intended benefits cannot be realized until the program is well advanced. This is not a piecemeal plan. It must be accomplished in orderly and continuing progression.
I am a member of the engineering profession; my training and my years of experience have taught me that in executing any long-range program, there must be a continuity of well-planned work ahead at all times. Efficient and economical engineering and construction require advance scheduling, and uninterrupted schedules. And, let me add, that the people of the Missouri Valley have an urgent-a very urgentneed for the earliest possible relief from floods and drought that the rapid completion of the basin program will afford.
That, gentleman, is why I am here today—to petition and urge the authorization of the projects recommended by the Army engineers. I heard General Pick's statement before this committee yesterday. I heard him recommend $300,000,000 in authorizations for the basin program. As an engineer, I recognize and support the soundness of that recommendation, and the need for assurance of continuing efficient and economical work and planning. No engineer, responsible for such a vast program, could do less, knowing that a considerable period of time must elapse before another authorization bill is considered.
As a citizen of the Missouri Valley and as an official of the city of Omaha, I respectfully urge your favorable consideration of the projects and amounts recommended for authorization by General Pick.
The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Warne, will you please give us your name and your official position with your qualifications and background? STATEMENT OF WILLIAM E. WARNE, ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER
OF THE BUREAU OF RECLAMATION, DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
Mr. WARNE. Mr. Chairman, my name is William E. Warne. I am Assistant Commissioner of the Bureau of Reclamation, and have been for some 3 years. I have worked in the Bureau of Reclamation 11 years. My work has largely been devoted to working on and with the planning of future development of water and related resources in the West as these come under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Reclamation.
The CHAIRMAN. Who is the Commissioner of the Bureau of Reclamation? Mr. WARNE. Mr. M. W. Strauss.
The CHAIRMAN. Is he one of the coauthors of the Missouri River plan? Mr. WARNE. I think you are referring to Mr. W. G. Sloan. The CHAIRMAN. Did he succeed Mr. Sloan?
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Mr. WARNE. Mr. Sloan is assistant regional director of the Bureau of Reclamation, Billings, Mont.
The CHAIRMAN. Under the adopted project in the Flood Control Act of 1944 there is an authorization for the works to be done by the Corps of Engineers and for the works to be done by the Bureau of Reclamation as set forth in the comprehensive plan, so far as the Bureau of Reclamation is concerned, in Senate Document 191, and so far as the Corps of Engineers in House Document No. 475 of the seventy-eighth Congress, and cooperation is provided for in Senate Document No. 247.
I will ask you if under the authorization of $200,000,000 how much has actually be appropriated ?
Mr. WARNE. The first appropriation granted amounted to $3,200,000 in the fiscal year 1946 for the purpose of perfecting certain construction plans and conducting other work in connection with the initial phase of the development of the Missouri River Basin that has been entrusted to the Department of the Interior. The Deficiency bill which was enacted on December 28, 1945, contained an appropriation of $10,780,300 for the purpose of continuing the preliminary work and beginning construction on three projects or units of an over-all project and a transmission line; namely, the Kortes Dam on the North Platte River in Wyoming, the Boysen Dam on the Big Horn River, the Angostura project in South Dakota, and the transmission line from Williston, N. Dak., to the Garrison Dam site.
The program as adopted under these two appropriations brought plans into being for completion of three construction works, the economic and engineering work required before commencement of actual construction on additional 8 units involved in the initial stage of the plan, making in all a total of 11 units of the plan by the end of the fiscal year 1946.
Now bids have been taken and the contract probably will soon be awarded for the commencement of construction of the Kortes Dam, which will be the first work to be actually undertaken by the Bureau of Reclamation under the authorization given last year.
The CHAIRMAN. May I ask you to repeat what is the total amount of this $200,000,000 that has been actually appropriated! Mr. WARNE. A total of $13,980,300 has actually been appropriated. The CHAIRMAN. Was that all carried in the deficiency bill? Mr. WARNE. No, sir; part of it was carried in the 1946 regular appropriation for the Interior Department.
The CHAIRMAN. How much? Mr. WARNE. $3,200,000. The remainder was carried in the deficiency bill, which was the first deficiency bill of 1946.
The CHAIRMAN. That is the December deficiency bill?
The CHAIRMAN. What is the total estimated cost of the projects approved in the 1944 act for construction by the Bureau of Reclamation in the Missouri River Basin?
Mr. WARNE. The total cost of the 90 units involved in Senate Document 191, which was the fundamental reclamation report to which General Pick referred earlier, amounted to approximately $1,500,000,000. I have here a table showing the present-day estimated construction cost of the units in the authorized initial stage, the amounts
tion in ein in the 1944 acte fis the total esti