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1, 335, 202

591, 485

272,060

195,060

165,000

FC

Flood control works.

TH

Bridge alterations under Truman-Hobbs Act.

L&D Navigation lock and dam.

2 Includes earnings of architect-engineers prior to fiscal year 1961.

Mr. TABER. I think that is all I have.

Mr. RABAUT. Before I call on the gentleman from New York, I wonder if you had given serious thought to Joint Resolution 68? This provides for a national public works week. Do you have any comment to make on this?

General CASSIDY. This is the first I have heard of it.

OIL POLLUTION OF WATERS

Mr. PILLION. Gentlemen, it was called to my attention this past week, a large brochure I am sorry I do not have it here with me, it's about a foot and a half by 2 feet-issued evidently by the U.S. Army Engineers. It is supposedly a call upon the public to help the U.S. Army Engineers to prevent pollution of the waters of this country. It goes on to list what a person shall do if he finds an oil spot on the water. He shall immediately become a detective and bring about all the resources at his command to ferret out which ship dropped it and get all the evidence, and that sort of thing. Then they are told to call the U.S. Army Engineers and they will immediately proceed, or in lieu of calling the U.S. Army Engineers they can call the U.S. Coast Guard. The substance of this brochure is an oversimplification. It is an ill-advised sheet.

General CASSIDY. We do not prosecute. We either turn the case over to the Coast Guard or the Justice Department, and there have been prosecutions.

Mr. PILLION. I have had people tell me they have called the Coast Guard, and they have no more idea what to do than the man in the moon. They have called the Corps of Engineers and they do not know what to do, and after three or four phone calls you find someone who will talk to you about this subject. It is intended to portray an active interest and all that sort of thing in the pollution question, and actually I do not know how long this law has been in effect-probably 30, 40 or 50 years but certainly there has been only isolated prosecutions that I know of. Do you know of any?

General CASSIDY. Yes, there are some.

Mr. PILLION. Where?

Colonel MCCRONE. Houston ship channel. There were two or three while I was there and the company was fined rather heavily on it. Mr. PILLION. This pamphlet that you put out, certainly to me is a waste of time and public funds.

General CASSIDY. I have not seen the poster. I would imagine it came from either a division or a district. I do not know, sir.

As far as the program is concerned, we have a quite active program in the prevention of pollution by oils. We do solicit private information from the private citizen if he notices an oil slick, and if possible we ask that he tell us how that happened.

One of the most difficult things to do is to attempt to determine what caused it. Very often when oil comes into a beach we will not know about it unless a private citizen tells us. If we do not know about it early enough there is no possibility of determining how it got there or what ship or shipping was responsible. In order to correct the situation, we do like to have people report to us those instances that they see and know about so that we can take action on this program.

Mr. PILLION. Is this based upon the oil's being a navigational hazard or is it based upon its being an injury or damage to fish and wildlife? General CASSIDY. Navigational hazard.

Mr. PILLION. How does it become a navigational hazard?

General CASSIDY. Spilled oils on water are considered to be a navigational hazard.

Mr. PILLION. I will try to remember to bring it in tomorrow, and the gentleman who spoke to me about it heads up one of the conservation statewide committees on pollution and he was certainly most critical of it, and I can understand his criticism of the situation, but I will bring it in to show it to you, gentlemen, tomorrow morning.

PUMP STORAGE

With respect to the pump storage, General Cassidy, you say that you do need authorization for that?

General CASSIDY. Yes, sir.

Mr. PILLION. Do you have any amount in this budget for next year? General CASSIDY. No, sir; we do not have authorization.

Mr. PILLION. And you could not do it without the authorizing act? You could not spend, say, the $223,000 that you had for the lesser study? All we

General CASSIDY. We do not need an authorizing act, sir. need is a resolution from one of the Public Works Committees asking us to review certain reports with respect to pump storage. Mr. PILLION. That should not be difficult to obtain. General CASSIDY. That will not be too difficult.

Mr. PILLION. Would you recommend $225,000 in having this job done of those projects that seem to have the best benefit-cost ratio? Would you rather have that than the year and a half study of $450,000 worth of others?

General CASSIDY. I would rather take the $225,000 study to see what we have.

Mr. PILLION. I would certainly agree with you there, General.

What are the prospects for benefits if we were to spend $225,000 and took the areas that lent themselves to the greatest extent to producing more useful hydropower? What would be the magnitude of the benefits that might be realized?

General CASSIDY. Such a report would be in the nature of our old 308 reports which presented the assets with the costs and the economics. In other words, we would locate pump storage sites in those areas where they are most likely to be used. We would give a study on general costs and the general economics of that site.

Mr. PILLION. Do you have any very rough ideas as to whether you might have 10 or 15 or 30 or 50 sites that might lend themselves to this type of engineering economics?

General CASSIDY. On some of our reservoirs in the Southwest there are, maybe, as many as 12 sites on one reservoir feasible for pumped storage, so there are many sites. It is just a question of locating them and then determining which is best and what the cost will be and the economics.

Mr. PILLION. Niagara power project has an installation such as this. Do you have any figures or data on that as to the benefits versus the cost? Would that be the same type of thing?

General CASSIDY. It is a special type or variation of it. Each project is going to have to stand on its own merits and position.

Mr. PILLION. And it has its own energy features?

General CASSIDY. Yes, sir.

Mr. RABAUT. Are there any other questions?

SOUTH PACIFIC DIVISION

WITNESSES

BRIG. GEN. ROBERT G. MacDONNELL, DIVISION ENGINEER MAXWELL I. RAE, CHIEF, OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, AND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT BRANCH

E. A. BARRETT, OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, AND PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT BRANCH, SOUTH PACIFIC DIVISION

GENERAL INVESTIGATION

Mr. RABAUT. Now we have general investigations for the South Pacific area, $1,220,400. We will insert pages 4 through 10. (The justification follows:)

Bolinas Chan

C-SP

25,000

15,000

10,000

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