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Colonel MARKS. $279,000.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the general type of work at Evansville?
Colonel MARKS. Levees and flood walls.

The CHAIRMAN. Is that largely levee or concrete flood walls?
Colonel MARKS. It is mostly levee at the Evansville project.

The CHAIRMAN. I see. What is the next one up the river? You see what I have in mind to commence at the downstream and go upstream.

Colonel MARKS. Harrisburg, Ill., at an approved Federal cost of $786,000, and the cost to the local interest, $20,000.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the project there?

Colonel MARKS. Levees and walls.

The CHAIRMAN. That is up river from Evansville?

Colonel MARKS. It is on a little tributary; it is not on the Ohio.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the name of the little tributary?

Colonel MARKS. The Saline River.

The CHAIRMAN. The Saline River?
Colonel MARKS. Yes.

The CHAIRMAN. What does that work generally consist of?
Colonel MARKS. The work is largely levees.

The CHAIRMAN. Levees?

Colonel MARKS. Pretty much. There are some walls, and there will be some pumps and a pumping plant.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the population there?

Colonel MARKS. Twelve thousand.

The CHAIRMAN. And the estimated cost?

Colonel MARKS. The estimated Federal cost, $786,000; and the local interest cost, $20,000.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, is the business section located close to the river, or how does it come about that the local interest is required to put up so small an amount?

Colonel MARKS. Well, the land there, where we are building the works, is on the outskirts and is not heavily developed.

The CHAIRMAN. Very well; the next project.

Colonel MARKS. The next one, geographically, is Tell City, Ind. Shall I go ahead and answer the same questions?

The CHAIRMAN. Yes; if you will.

Colonel MARKS. At Tell City the Government's cost is $1,460,000 and the local interest cost, $36,000. The project consists of levees and flood walls.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the next one up river?

Colonel MARKS. The next up the river is Ironton, Ohio. The Federal cost is $3,360,000 and the local-interest cost is estimated at $669,000.

The CHAIRMAN. And what does it consist of?

Colonel MARKS. It consists of both levees and flood walls.

The CHAIRMAN. What is the next one up river?

Colonel MARKS. The next one up river is Ceredo and Kenova, W. Va. The Federal cost is $2,609,000, and the local-interest cost, $265,000.

It consists principally of levees and there are short sections of flood walls.

The next one up river is at Huntington, W. Va., where we have two sections actually under way.

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One section under way, known as the Business Section, will cost $2,794,000, and the local-interest cost is $412,000.

The other section known as the West End or Westmoreland Section will cost the Federal Government $3,540,000; the local interests, $655.000.

The CHAIRMAN. There are no other projects now up the river? Colonel MARKS. Not until we reach the Pittsburgh area. However, the projects below the city of Pittsburgh-———

The CHAIRMAN. We will take them up later. Thank you very much. I just wanted to get a general statement in the record and we will recall you later. There are no other reservoirs under way. Colonel MARKS. There are no reservoirs under way in the area below Pittsburgh.

The CHAIRMAN. That is all on the lower Ohio and tributaries?
Colonel MARKS. No other reservoirs.

The CHAIRMAN. So you have given all the projects that have been constructed or are under way since the act of 1937 and including the act of 1938?

Colonel MARKS. Yes. All those in the lower Ohio River region on or near the main river.

The CHAIRMAN. We are greatly obliged to you and will recall you in just a few moments.

Gentlemen, we have under consideration, as I have stated, the lower Ohio and its tributaries and there are a number of witnesses here this morning, among them being Dr. Rosenheim, Colonel Long, Mr. Wilson, Mr. Logsdon, and Mr. Jordan. Those are the first witnesses whose names were given to the committee, and those, I assume, are from Huntington, W. Va.

Among other members of Congress who are present we have Mr. Johnson, the Representative from that District. We expect to have statements from all Members of Congress interested on April 1st. But before we take the witnesses from this particular area, Congressman Johnson is here and if you wish to take a few minutes, at this time, Mr. Johnson, we will be glad to have you make a short statement with the understanding you can appear on April 1st. We have under consideration the matter of additional authorization to enable the construction of further projects on the lower Ohio Basin and its tributaries.

STATEMENT OF HON. GEORGE W. JOHNSON, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA

Mr. JOHNSON. I want to apologize for not being able to remain with you, but fortunately or unfortunately I am on another committee and must leave, because that committee is meeting this morning to consider a very important matter, and I have been called so I must give my time between the two, and since I will have an opportunity to appear later on and give my views I shall reserve until that time what I have to add.

I want to say in parting that whatever you gentlemen decideand everyone living in my district is very much interested in this movement-and whatever you gentlemen want to do, you can count me in on it; I will go the limit and if there is any voting to be

done here in my absence I will ask you to call on Colonel Long to represent me.

The CHAIRMAN. We are glad to have your statement, Mr. Johnson, and you will have an opportunity to appear later.

There are a number of other Members of Congress present and it may be there are others whose names will be furnished, who are interested in the lower Ohio and its tributaries.

STATEMENT OF HON. ANDREW J. MAY, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF KENTUCKY

The CHAIRMAN. Representative May, of Kentucky, is present. Mr. May, while you will have an opportunity to appear later, as we expect to hold hearings at which time Members of Congress will have an opportunity to present in full their statements, if there is any particular matter or any project in which you are interested and wish to bring to the attention of the committee to have us take up and develop, we would be glad to have your statement on it.

Mr. MAY. My colleague, Mr. Flannagan, of Virginia, has asked that he be accorded the privilege of appearing on April 1 to make a state

ment.

The CHAIRMAN. We will be glad to have him. Is there any particular project in which you are interested along the lower Ohio and its tributaries?

Mr. MAY. Yes; particularly the Big Sandy River Basin.
The CHAIRMAN. What is the name of the reservoir?

Mr. MAY. Dewey, Fishtrap, Hasi, and others on the Big Sandy River. Particularly those in Virginia back of the breaks of Sandy. And I might state here now that there has been considerable work done on the Dewey and probably they are about ready for construction

now.

At Fishtrap, Hasi, Va., and others in the headwaters they should have some additional authorization.

I will be glad to take that up later.

The CHAIRMAN. We will be glad to have you on April 1.

Mr. MAY. Is that April fools day for my benefit?

The CHAIRMAN. We may have to continue it until the next day.
Mr. MAY. Thank you.

STATEMENT OF HON. BRENT SPENCE, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF KENTUCKY

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Spence, the committee has under consideration the lower Ohio and its tributaries. Do you have any particular project in mind?

Mr. SPENCE. I am very much interested in Falmouth Reservoir.

The CHAIRMAN. You understand, we will be glad to have you appear later on.

Mr. SPENCE. Yes. I will be glad to appear later on. I am interested in this project not only because it is in my district, but I think there is a stronger reason to be interested in its construction. I have been told by Colonel Elliott, district engineer, Colonel Powell, and, I think, Colonel Marks, division engineers, and other Army engineers that this is one of the most meritorious projects in the Ohio Valley.

The CHAIRMAN. That is Falmouth?

Mr. SPENCE. Yes. I have been informed it will have the effect of reducing the ordinary flood level at Covington and Newport, Ky., about 7 feet. Not only that, but when the Licking River runs out it has the effect of water damming up the flow of the Ohio River so that it forces the water in the Ohio River to run to the east at the point of confluence with the Licking when normally it runs toward the west.

I think something has happened to that project and I would like to know about it. It was put on the list as a preferential project and now it has been taken off that list and I would like to get some information on the subject.

The CHAIRMAN. We are glad to have your statement and will keep that in mind.

Is there any other project which you wish to call to our attention? What about Cave Run?

Mr. SPENCE. There is also another project that I am interested in. I understand I will have opportunity to discuss the matter at the later hearing.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes.

Mr. SPENCE. I will be glad to take it up then.

The CHAIRMAN. We will be glad to have any further statement you wish to make.

Mr. Polk was here but I understand he has been called out. He was present and I understand he is interested in the Paint Creek project as well as other projects, the Belle Point.

Mr. Claypool is a member of this committee, and among other projects he is interested in the Deer Creek.

Mr. CLAYPOOL. Yes.

The CHAIRMAN. Representative Edmiston was here and he will appear later on the Ironton project, and is interested in the Burnsville project.

STATEMENT OF HON. CHARLES H. ELSTON, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF OHIO

The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Elston, you are particularly interested in what project?

Mr. ELSTON. Mr. Chairman, I am interested in two matters, one of which I presume the committee will not undertake to consider until after you complete the hearings on the flood-control projects. I refer particularly to the bill that I spoke to your chairman about the other day.

The CHAIRMAN. The general purpose of the statement at this time is to have the Members of Congress state the projects in which they are interested or in which they wish to have us develop information, and they can appear later on, when other Members of Congress will be heard.

Mr. ELSTON. I am interested in the bill which I have introduced, H. R. 8914, and I am also interested in a reservoir to be located on the East Fork of the Little Miami River above Cincinnati.

The CHAIRMAN. I know the project in which you are interested, but for the record the committee is primarily interested in the pro

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