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was that Æthelbald had already planted a Mercian the only instance of refusal with which I am ac

H. S. colody on that part of the north coast of Devon quainted. and Cornwall of which the island of Lundy is an

I shall be glad if the following facts prove useoff-lier. THOMAS KERSLAKE.

ful to your correspondent who inquires regarding Bristol,

Scots noblemen who, having been granted British (Many contributors are thanked for replies to the above effect.

peerages in Queen Anne's time, were refused seats

in the House of Lords. The “FARMER'S CREED" IN THE Last Cen- It appears that at different periods much comTURY (766 S. i. 448).—According to Solly's Titles plication has arisen with regard to the effects of of Honour,' the first and only Simpson who was British peerages thus conferred, and that such created a baronet received that honour in 1866. cases have been seen from very different points of

G. F. R. B. view in connexion with the election of the sixteen THE GAME OF THIRTY (7th S. i. 349, 411). –

representative peers of Scotland. Thus, the Duke Is it not probable that the game alluded to is Dover in 1708 by a patent of British peerage, his

of Queensberry having been created Duke of the game of bone-ace, or one-and-thirty? Thirty would be a good number with which to "stand," vote at the election of representative peers was but the bishops were not content with that, but, sustained by the House of Lords, January, 1709.

objected to on that account. The objection was 80 to speak, drew another card, which proved not

In a few years after, however, the Duke of Hamil. to be the ace, and so were “out." F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY.

ton having received a patent creating him Duke

of Brandon, claimed his seat as such in the House Scotch Peers (7th S. i. 447).—Burnet records of Lords ; but after some debate, and after a that in 1711 “Duke Hamilton ” was by patent motion for a reference to the opinion of the judges created a duke in England. It appears, however, had been negatived, their lordships, on Dec. 20, from the context, that the new dukedom was in 1711, came to the resolution "That no patent of the peerage of Great Britain. The title was that honour granted to any peer of Great Britain, who of Brandon. A debate took place in that same was a peer of Scotland at the time of the Union, pear on the question whether the new duke could can entitle such peer to sit and vote in Parliament, sit and vote as a peer of Great Britain ; and by a or to sit upon the trial of peers.” majority of five it was decided that he could not, This resolution, it appears, remained in force since by the Act of Union the peers of Scotland till June 6, 1782, when the claim of the Duke of could only vote in Parliament through their six- Hamilton to sit in Parliament es Duke of Brandon teen representative peers. Previously to this the being again agitated, and a question having been Duke of Queensberry had been created Duke of put to the judges, they delivered a unanimous Dover in the peerage of Great Britain, and had opinion that " the peers of Scotland are not disbeen suffered to vote by the latter title, but abled from receiving, subsequently to the Union, was restricted from giving a vote in the election of a patent of peerage of Great Britain, with all the Scotch representative peers.

privileges usually incident thereto." His grace's EDWARD C. HAMLEY. claim to a writ of summons was sustained by the Kensington.

House, and, it is added, "no doubt has ever since The opposition of the House of Lords was caused been stirred on that branch of the question." by the elevation of the Duke of Hamilton to

The substance of the above is taken from a little the English peerage by the title of Duke of book I picked up at a bookstall a few days ago, Brandon. On Dec. 20, 1711, the Lords finally entitled, “Notes relating to the Procedure in the resolved (Contents 57, Not-Contents 52) that Elections of the Representatives in the British Scottish

Parliament of the Peers of Scotland,' Edin., 1818. peers, created peers of Great Britain since the Union, have not a right to sit in that

Alex. FergusSON, Lieut.-Col. House" (Hansard's ‘Parliamentary History,' vol. vi.

Lennox Street, Edinburgh, p. 1017). See also Sir Walter Scott's Tales of a

Rob Roy in NEWGATE (7th S. i. 469).—That Grandfather : Scotland,' vol. iv. p. 174, ed. 1836. he was ever a prisoner there, or anywhere else, for The resolution, as is well known, has been rescinded subsequently.

his share in the rising of 1715 is at variance with

history. In November, 1716, he captured GraEDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.

hame of Killearn in his feud against Montrose. In Hastings.

1716 he escaped from the Duke of Athole at LogiePerhaps your correspondent refers to the case of rait (Ant. Scot. Trans., iii.). In 1719 he fought the Duke of Hamilton, who on being gazetted to at Glenshiel, where the MacGregors fell upon the the Eoglish dakedom of Brandon, Dec. 12, 1711, was rear of the 15th Regiment. In the same year he refused a seat in the English House of Lords, which wrote his mock challenge to Montrose (see Scott's prohibition was in force for seventy years. This is novel, Appendix i.). In 1720 he wrote to


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Marshal Wade a letter that was but little to his “TIPPED THE WINK" (7th S. i. 366).--This ex-
credit (see ibid, No. iv.). In 1733 he fought pression occurs in Colley Cibber's 'Flora; or, Hob
Stewart of Appin. In 1734 he died in peace at in the Well,' II. ii. :-
Balqubidder (Cal. Mercury, Jan. 9, 1735).

“Ser. Knew you, Sir ! why I bought one of your JAMES GRANT. ballads for her, and she tipt the wink upon me, with as

much as to say, desire him not to go till he hears from Rob Roy was never imprisoned in Newgate. The only time he was ever south of Carlisle was

F. C. BIRKBECK TERRY. on the notable occasion of his visit to London, where he went at the invitation of the Duke of

The reference to Swift is a short piece of five Argyll, and met him and the Duke of Montrose stanzas, ' The Dog and Thief,' written in 1726. for the purpose of a reconciliation between the


Hastings. two. Equally incorrect is the statement that Rob Roy was transported to Barbadoes.


consulted the Times for May 4, 1875, before sendSwallowfield, Reading.

ing his query, he would have found the following BRITISH INSTITUTION (7th S. i. 489). — 'An announcement on the first sheet :-“On the Account,' &c., 1824, was compiled by the Rev. 1st May, at 9, Eton-villas, Haverstock-bill, James Dallaway, author of several books asso- Alfred George Stevens, Esq., aged 57 years." ciated with art and archæology, and one of the

G. F. R. B. editors of ' Anecdotes of Painting in England, HISTORY OF ELECTRIC LIGHTING (7th S. i. 448). by H. Walpole.

F. G. S.

- There is a good deal about electric light and

electricity in general in Ure's ‘Dictionary of Arts,' AUTHORSHIP OF QUOTATION WANTED (7th S. i.

&c., 1878.

H. G. GRIFFINHOOFE. 468).-Dr. Holden's Foliorum Silvula, part ii. p. 91, gives these lines as “ translated from

Consult Electric Illumination,' by J. Dredge, Schiller."

Will MR. FITZGERALD oblige me 2 vols., large 4to., 358. each, published at the office privately with a copy of the work to which he of Engineering.

M. D. refers ?

P. J. F. GANTILLON. Bays Hill, Cheltenham.


478). - The question of the posthumous issue of CHAPEL, SOMERSET HOUSE (7th S. 309).- a sovereign was raised in the reign of William IV., Mr. Coleman, of 9, Tottenham Terrace, Totten- and the constitutional law of England was declared ham, has 'Registers of all the Marriages, Bap- on the point in the Regency Act of 1831 of that tisms, and Burials that took place at the Private reign. The fact that no precedent could be found Chapel at Somerset House, from 1714 to its close since the Norman Conquest for provision having in 1776,' at 2s.6d.

B. F. SCARLETT. been made for government in an interval between Lennox Lodge, Eastbourne,

the king's death and his heir's birth shows that

this case was of rare occurrence in England. Ac“SQUARE MEAL” (7th S. i. 449).- A reference to cordingly difficulties presented themselves as to Webster-Mahn shows that this, like many another the succession to the crown. It was clear that an so-called Americanism, is good old English. unborn child could not be seized of the crown, for " Square, Leaving nothing; hearty ; vigorous."

it is a maxim that the king never dies, and immeBy Heaven, square eaters,

diately on the death of the reigning monarch the More meat, I say.-Beaumont and Fletcher.

crown must devolve on the heir presumptive. It EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A. was, therefore, determined that if William IV. Hastings.

should die during the minority of the Princess BOOK-PLATES (7th S. i. 448). In reference to the Victoria, she should be proclaimed queen, subject second query of W. M. M., I have some old docu- to the rights of any issue that might be born of ments dated 1761-4-5 in which the Rev. Dey the king's consort, that is to say, she was to Syer, of Kedington, co. Suffolk, is named ; and I succeed to the crown on the understanding that believe a descendant of his, and bearing his name,

if any child was born afterwards she should is now rector of the parish. W. M. M. might forego the dignity in its favour. Happily the perhaps obtain the information he seeks from him. contingency contemplated did not occur, and her

Majesty succeeded without reservation.

No. 1 is apparently the coat and crest of Smyth, 14, Gillespie Crescent, Edinburgh.
of Essex, Greenwich, and Plumpton, Kent. No. 2,
Bound, Mayor of Bristol, 1708, or Osmerdale, of THE LAST EARL OF ANGLESEA (7th S. i. 328,
Cumberland and York. E. FRY WADE. 455).-I now perceive another ancient reference in
Axbridge Somerset.

‘N. & Q.’ (2nd S. xi, 74), where it is said that Anne

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Salkeld was the sixth earl's third wife. A corre- guide the army was called Montjoie. So "Montspondent also refers me to a pedigree of Jackson joie St. Denis” will say that they had “ to follow (the family of Anne Salkeld's mother) in More- the banner of St. Denis” (the oriflamme). Monthouse's History of Kirk Burton, co. York,' p. 172. joie was undoubtedly a vice index, an enseigneHere the date given to Anne's marriage with the chemin for the army. The battle cry of the Dukes earl is 1742. This, according to the dates I have of Bourbon was “ Montjoie Notre Dame"; of the given, would make her the fourth wife. More Dukes of Burgundy, “ Montjoie St. Andrew "; of entanglement! I must repeat my hope that some the Kings of England, “Montjoie St. George "; one with authority will clear the matter up. of the Dukes of Adjou, Montjoie Adjou," &c.

C. F. S. WARREN, M.A. I believe that, except the royal house of BourTreneglos, Kenwyn, Truro.

bon, no other family has this motto. (Vide Borel HORACE SMITH (7 S. i. 360).—Why Horace? d'Hauterive, 1872 ; Ducange, 'Glossarium,' &c.).

Moscow. He himself wrote Horatio. See facsimile auto. graph in Mr. S. C. Hall's 'Book of Memories.' EASTER BIBLIOGRAPHY (7th S. i. 325).-One I have a short note, dated Brighton, Dec. 14, 1840, addition which may be made to the list given by also signed Horatió Smith.

CLIO. W. C. B. is the following :

J. Newland Smith, Rev., M.A. "Some Observations FYLFor (7th S. i. 368, 455).- I think that there respecting Eastertide : Suggesting and Advocating & is a third German equivalent for fylfot, viz., drü- Change in the Mode of determining the Paschal Limits.' denfusz, the spirit's foot. I doubt whether it is Lond., Longmans, 1872. generally known that the fylfot is at the present I have marked the title of my copy as part i., time in aniversal use in China as a Buddhist sym. because there appeared a notice of Eastertide, bol H. J. MOULE. part ii., in 'N. & Q.,' 4th S. xi. 313, in 1873.

ED. MARSHALL. Since asking my query, which 0. has kindly answered, I have also found krückenkreuz in a book 'A FAITHFUL REGISTER OF THE LATE REof German heraldry for the cruc gammata.

BELLION' (7th S. i. 408).—MR. PARTINGTON is in

A. R. error as to Mr. Crossley's belief that the above The Russian FIELD-MARSHAL PETER De Lascy pote from his copy of it : "An interesting account,

tract is by Defoe. I transcribed the following (7* s. i. 449). —Taking a special interest in Peter though not, I think, Defoe's.-J. C.” De Lascy, otherwise Peter Lacy, who was of my

EDWARD RIGGALL. maternal kin, I may inform your correspondent 69, Ladbroke Grove, W. B. T. that in the memoirs of the Prince de Ligne ("Journal des Campagnes de Lascy') will be found VERITABLE (7th S. i. 428).—The French word the information he desires. He might also consult véritable can only be adequately, translated into the 'Histoire de Mon Temps' of Frederic II. English by the word “genuine.” For example,

J. O'BYRNE CROKE. one could say of Sévres china, &c., in French, this 12, St. Mary's Road, Dublin.

is véritable Sévres, i, e., "genuine." Anglicized,

veritable has not the right meaning at all. BRALFORD FAMILY (7th S. i. 89, 175).- If

C. R. T. SIGMA would extend his offer to furnish notes Union Club. of thirty marriages connected with the Bradford family to another inquirer, he would find one who

NOBLE MASTERS AND THEIR SERVANTS (7th S. would be extremely grateful for the same in

i. 386).—In 1884 an article appeared in the Times W. C.

(February 23 and 25) on "The Speakership." In 10, Piccadilly, Bradford.

the second instalment I find these words :

“About this time (1708) there seems to have been a SOUTHEY's 'BATTLE OF BLENHEIM' (7th S. i. custom of the Members' servants electing a Speaker 406, 474).-I mentioned Blindheim, Dot Blend- among themselves. In Swift's ‘Journal,' November 25, beim, as the name of the Bavarian village.

1710, is this entry :-Pompey, Colonel Hill's black, J. Dixon.

designs to stand Speaker for the footmen. I have en

gaged to use my interest for him, and have spoken to "MONTJOYE ST.Denys" (766 S. i.427).—Ducange

Patrick to get him him some votes.''

ALPHA. ('Gloss.') derives the word Montjoie from “Mons Gaudii= Montagne-de-la-joie." But Montjoyer “OLD STYLE” AND THE OLD PROVERBS (7th S. Montjoie=Montjou comes rather from Mons Jovis i. 407). – I have often heard this question raised; =mount of Jupiter=mount of God. Heaps of but to answer it in any particular case we must stones were thrown in old times on the way to know in what century the proverb arose. Greindicate the road to be followed. Afterwards gory's reform was meant to bring the calendar crests were placed on these stone-heaps, and, by back to its state in the fourth century, just after extension, the banner borne before the troops to the council of Nicæa. A proverb originating just

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then should he true now and permanently ; but if at Hoadley's death it." was purchased by Sir later born, as in St. Swithin's time, about three- Richard Glynn, who sold it to the Earl of Ashfourths the number of centuries between A.D. 330 burnbam." This was doubtless the Sir Richard and its origin will be the number of days we now Glyn who was Lord Mayor in 1759, and who lost antedate it.

E. L. G. his election for the City in 1768, Barlow Trecoth

wick being elected in his place. Sir Richard Glyn CostanUS A CAristian Name (6th S. v. 68). – died on January 1, 1773, some fifteen or sixteen At the above reference T. C. asks as to Costamus, years after Hoadley. Sir Richard's second wife used as a Christian name. It is rather late to reply, was Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Robert Carr, Bart., but looking over the Keighley parish registers not and their eldest son was Sir Richard Carr Glyn, long ago I came on these entries, which seem to who served as Mayor in 1799. G. F. R. B. answer his query:Feb, 23, 1586. Constantino Maude Isabella Hart.

CHILDREN'S CRUSADE (7th S. i. 487).—Though loy."

it is not a long, and therefore is not an exhaus"Dec. 23, 1617. The wife of Costaine Maude buried." tive” notice, MR. E. A. D'ARGENT would see & I understand the Costamus to be contraction of summary of the history, the origin, progress and end Co(n)stan(tin)us, which was an occasional Christian of the children's crusade in Mat. Paris, 'H. M.,' name with the Maudes of Halifax, Bingley, Keigh- ad. A.D. 1213, pp. 242-3, ed. 1640. There are ley, and other places in the West Riding of York. also the historian's views as to its character. W. O. K.

ED. MARSHALL. SHAKSPEARE's Doctor (7th S. i. 428).—This

It is mentioned by Fuller in his ' Holy Warre.' story of Shakespeare's pall-bearer, which has been an account of it will be found in Dr. Charles floating about in the newspapers for some twenty Mackay's 'Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Deyears, has been finally disposed of by Mr. Moncure lusions, vol. ii., article “The Crusades." Conway in Harper's Magazine for January, 1886.

COTABERT BEDE, He proves, from personal inspection, that no such Hallam gives some particulars of this in a note, tomb ever existed in Fredericksburg graveyard, 'Europe during the Middle Ages,' vol. ii. p. 359, and that no such inscription was ever engraved on and cites as his authorities ‘Annali di Muratore, any tombstone in Virginia. He gives a facsimile a.d. 1211 ; Velly, 'Hist. de France,' t. iv. p. 206. of the stone from which the legend was said to be

St. SWITHIN derived, and which contains no reference to Shakespeare or pall-bearer, and supposes that these words with references to various authorities, see Michaud's

For a full account of the crusade of children, must have been added to the original inscription History of the Crusades' (Bohn's ed., vol. iii. by some note” which has got into the printed App. 28). The date of the crusade was about 1212. text.



Hastings. Latin LINE WANTED (7th S. i. 487).--I have much pleasure in accepting the “benediction" of so This crusade was preached in France and Ger. good a scholar as Mr. BROGDEN for the hexameter many in the spring of 1212. See Woodward and and pentameter line on behalf of the undersigned, Cates's 'Encyclopædia of Chronology' (1872), who must plead in excuse for its authorship that p. 392, where a brief account of the disasters it was made in undergraduate days, and solely in attending the enterprise are given. consequence of its having been pronounced an im

G. F. R. B. possibility. The line is

Hecker's 'Epidemics of the Middle Ages,' third Quando nigrescit nox rem latro patrat atrox, edition, 1859, Trübner & Co., has a supplementary where six out of the thirteen syllables (two, three, chapter on these “Child Pilgrimages," and also a eight, nine, ten, twelve) are either long or short copious list of authorities. The earlier editions as it suits. It has two other features—it is not a are without this information. mere nonsense verse, and it rhymes within itself.

G. H. THOMPSON. As another curiosity of literature, I may add that,

Alnwick. on being challenged to make another line both "The Children's Crusade: an Episode of the alcaic and sapphic, I did so by omitting the last Thirteenth Century,' by G. Z. Gray, relates to this word and substituting “sacra” for “nox” and subject. I have not read the book, but have heard


Trin. Coll. Cam. 86, Gloster Place, Portman Square.

G. P. R. James, in his ‘History of Chivalry,'

pp. 286, 287, gives some account, though I cannot Glyn (7th S. i. 448).-An account of this house say an “exhaustive" one of this crusade, but perhaps and its inhabitants will be found in Faulkner's a more elaborate one may be gathered from the Chelsea' (1829), vol. I, p. 72. Faulkner says that authorities which he gives in the foot-notes. The

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book is not expensive, and the publishers are Col- and duchess, and of designs from the famous 'Book of burn & Bentley, New Burlington Street.

The Horsemanship’ of the former, adds greatly to the at

tractions of the volume, and the miscellaneous matter of date of my edition is 1830.

interest supplied by Mr. Firth in the shape of appendices EDMUND Tew, M.A.

adds no less to its value. It is, in short, a work of solid Blue Roses (7th S. i. 328, 357).—MR. MASKELL value as well as a covetable volume. will find an essay by Alphonse Karr, "Les Roses King Edward the Sixth, Supreme Head: an Historical Noires et les Roses Bleues'; also a novel, ' Blue

Lee, D.D. Roses,' by an English author known only as Oates.) “Vera.” Alphonse Karr says that blue roses are DR. LEE is a learned antiquary and an accomplished

The sketch he has now given us ig “ les roses que l'on rêve, mais que l'on ne cueille theologian. jamais."


valuable because it shows by what violent means even changes the most necessary were brought about.

We have little fault to find with his facts, but the AUTHORS OF Books Wanted (7th S. i. 470).- style is not praiseworthy. Cobbett's History of the

• England as seen by an American Banker' was pub- Reformation contains important facts of a kind which lished at the beginning of this year. The author is Mr. were at the time it was written new to most persons, C. B. Patten, of the State National Bank, said by the We never heard of any cultivated person, however, who Boston Traveller to be one of the leading men of finance did not shrink from Cobbett's extreme violence of state. in Boston,"

J. H. NODAL, ment. We imagine tbat Dr. Lee's volume will leave

much the same impression on the minds of this genera.

tion as Cobbett's tirade did on the imaginations of our faiscellaneous.

grandfathers. If history is to continue to be studied, it

can now only be as a science, and the scientific mind is NOTES ON BOOKS, &o.

in direct antagonism to personalities against those who The Life of William Cavendish, Duke of Newcastle. To have long gone to their account. Dr. Lee not only hates which is added, The True Relation of my Birth, Breed the Reformation and all that came of it, but he holds

ing, and Life. By Margaret, Duchess of Newcastle. extreme views on some questions of modern politics and Edited by C. H. Firth, M.A. (Nimmo.)

social life. Of course he is not to be blamed for this; but The lives of the Duke and Duchess of Newcastle, written it is unfortunate that he has introduced any of these by the hand of the ducbess, deserve a place in that band. matters into his introduction, as it will have a direct some and admirable series of biographies which Mr. tendency to prejudice some of his readers against a book Nimmo is bringing within reach of the book-lover. They which is valuable in more than one respect. There is constituto not only the best known, but the only fairly the clearest evidence on almost every page of the volume known works of the most prolific of female writers. The that its author has worked laboriously among unpub. ponderous folios which her grace poured forth in pro- lished records. Occasionally the references given are fusion-securing, in so doing, an amount of adulation not what a student calls for. On p. 87, for instance, the from the writers and dignitaries of her day such as no author seems to think he has gratified all needful curio. woman had received since the days of Queen Elizabeth-sity when he tells us that a certain passage comes from are now known only to the antiquary and the student, the “State Papers.". Surely time and space might have who, however, cherish them with delight for many been afforded sufficient to furnish us with the volume reasons it is needless here to explain. Her poems, some and page of the Calendar in which it is referred to. of them wanting neither in fancy nor in taste, her ora- The volume contains a most useful catalogue of portions, her philosophical opinions and disquisitions, her traits of Edward VI. and of many others of both sexes plays, scarcely to be distinguished from her disquisitions who were prominent during his short and unhappy — with all these things Time declines to burden himself. reign. There is also a most useful pedigree of the house The price they sometimes fetch in the auction-room is of Tudor and its connexions, beginning with Richard, more often due to the portraits which grace them than Duke of York, who was killed at the battle of Wakefield to the works themselves. The memoirs, however, live, in 1460. and will live. Edition after edition of them has appeared, though this is the first time they have appeared in a The Ethics of Aristotle. By Rev. 1, Gregory Smith. becoming form. It is needless to go through the biblio- (S.P.C.K.) graphy of the works of which Mr. Firth supplies a list. This instalment of the series entitled “Chief Ancient It is worth while, however, to say that the life of the Philosophies” is a very creditable performance. It is a duchers forms, as is said, "The Eleventh and Last Book | little book (of not a hundred pages) on a vast subject; of Nature's Pictures, Drawn by Fancy's Pencil to the and the wonder of it is, that the subject is so well set Life, &c., 1656” (the duchess's title-pages are, to alter forth and explained as to be a great help to the student slightly an illustration of Macaulay, long enough for of the Stagyrite, and by its close association with modern prefaces), but in the first edition only. For some ethical systems to be useful to all students of ethics. We reason, at which we are unable to make a conjecture, know the author of this manual chiefly as one of the and in which we should have been glad of the opinion Bampton lecturers; but he was in his time a notable of Mr. Firth, who does not allude to the fact, it dis- Oxford scholar, having gained both the Hertford and appears entirely from the second edition, copies of which the Ireland ; and it is evident from this manual that are before us. These biographies should be read all, though he has eely used Sir Alexander Grant's larger The life of the duke needs, of course, to be supplemented, work on the same subject, he has had a long and intimate but is something more than an outcome of conjugal idol- acquaintance with the original Greek treatises. It is only atry, which, however, among other things, it is. That of this almost lifelong experience of his master's works, the duchess gives a delightful picture of domestic life in joined to a remarkable power of concise and methodical England in the family of which it was said that all the expression, which could have enabled the learned presons were brave and all the daughters virtuous. The re- bendary to compile this book. After the introductory production of handsomely executed portraits of the duke matter are seven chapters: i. “Psychology of the Ethics";

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